You do know that when donating you can tell them to toss it afterwards, right?
Isnât this a waste of the nurseâs time? Furthermore I feel as if youâd get blacklisted for repeatedly pulling this
Where I live you have to book appointments in advance to donate blood⊠theyâd be incredibly pissed off if one was to say âdump itâ
However Australia tends to be ridiculous, esp regarding rules/regulations, beaurocracy and just how easy it is to get banned/written off⊠if you get kicked out of a club and they scan youâre card whilst getting kicked out, youâre banned from every single club country wide that uses scan tek⊠for lifeâŠ
Same ideology probably applies to donating blood, Iâd think youâd get blacklisted anywhere for pulling this
They allow it, which means they are ok with the practice existing. They get to make the rules.
Doesnât that defeat the point of donating blood?
I donât know what your access to clean syringes is like, and since you donât have access to bloodwork or basic health insurance, youâre not quite the posterchild of responsibility.
If anything, SJWs would be defending you to donating blood, no matter how often you stick unprescribed drugs in your body. Thatâs why they love heroin addicts and try to open up the parameters to give blood in the US.
I should note, just in case youâre wondering whether this is a subtopic worth arguing over⊠itâs not⊠from experience I can say getting into a verbal pissing match over this will just serve to induce irritation between you and potentially the person youâre arguing with⊠itâs not worth it⊠just agree to disagree, it doesnât matter who is right. Be the bigger man and walk away⊠itâs difficult, especially when given inaccurate, enticing responses, however from experience on here Iâll say all these arguements do is dampen youâre day
I certainly donât think youâre irresponsible for using 220mg test weekly as a cycle, as a matter of fact within the realms of AAS use itâs about as responsible as you can get. The whole donating blood schtick is an ethical dilemma as youâre lying on a legal document⊠but the truth is (and I know this given where I get my needles, swabs etc) youâre getting sterile equipment, youâre injecting safely within youâre own home⊠youâre not at risk for blood Bourne disease and thus whether you donate blood pertains to whether youâre comfortable lying on a legal document, not whether youâre actually at risk for transmitting disease⊠because you probably arenât (unless thereâs something youâre not telling us)
Im pretty sure all blood drawn is tested for blood bourne disease anyway, and if found, is just discarded.
SB
HIV can go undetected for 3 months
It is, and hiv can go by undetected for three months
But once again (this pertains to anyone who isnât aware) OP here isnât at risk for HIV⊠this is a mute point and an incoherent arguement to make
The stigmitisation against AAS users by those who donât understand the scene/environment is substantial. When such a world is so out of youâre grasp, why would you argue about it
Now I understand why flappinit was getting irritated regarding when I argued about cocaine usage (why people would use it when the duration of action is so short, cardiac toxicity etc)⊠Iâve never used it, and despite having researched the science/pharmacokinetics behind the substance⊠I canât possibly understand it adequately, the specifics behind actual patterns of use when Iâve never actually tried it myself⊠and I never will
The same pertains to the populace and opinions regarding AAS use (needle sharing, hiv, Penile shrinkage, roid rage etc)⊠it just doesnât happen
Should be noted all blood for transfusion is checked for HIV⊠every donation the recipient is checked for HIV⊠given AAS users arenât stupid enough to share needles (does ANYONE here know a steroid user who shared needles?) if HIV isnât present initially it probably wonât develop barring some unfortunate circumstance
I donât have HIV. I have none of the risk factors for it. In fact I have nothing thatâs transmitted through blood. I know this because I get regular blood work. But Iâm on TRT. Would it be unethical for me to donate blood?
You run cycles right? But no, in my opinion itâs fine so long as youâre comfortable lying on a legal document. Perhaps you donât want me backing youâre argument butâŠ
the notion of you donating blood/not being able to because some of youâre use is off script is retarded
- one can get prescribed cyclic dosages from certain âclinicsâ somehow thats magically better?
- doctors donât give you the needles/syrings to inject with, whether youâre on TRT or not youâre probably getting the injecting equipment using identical methods⊠apparently one is a risk for Blood Bourne diseases, one isnât⊠itâs absurd
If you were say
- having unprotected sex with random women, men or both
- getting inked regularly
- injecting narcotics intravenously or sub Q with used, shared needles etc
then youâd be at legitimate risk
What people donât understand is that a user of anabolic steroids is very different to that of someone injecting narcotics, the semblance of dependence, intense physical cravings inducing desperation and dramatically impaired ability to make rational decisions isnât present⊠people need to stop lumping
- AAS users
and - Heroin addicts
into the same category, there is no correlation between the two
You get regular bloodwork so you know youâre clean, thatâs the difference here from a guy who canât afford basic bloodwork.
Is your TRT prescribed by a doctor? Then youâre in the clear. If not, by the documentation provided by Red Cross in the US and Australia, no.
I just wanted to understand your logic and how you approached the issue. Iâm always curious about how people think through something and where they draw any particular line(s). Thank you for your answer.