Does This Go Far Enough?

On the August 14 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing the alleged “Islamization of Western Europe,” Neal Boortz claimed that because “Muslims don’t eat during the day during Ramadan” and “fast during the day and eat at night,” they are "sort of like cockroaches.

Der Sturmer was running contests encouraging German children to write in. One little girl wrote, “People are so bothered by the way we?re treating the Jews. They can?t understand it, because they are God?s creatures. But cockroaches are also God?s creatures, and we destroy them.”

WASHINGTON (Reuters)- When radio host Jerry Klein suggested that all Muslims in the United States should be identified with a crescent-shape tattoo or a distinctive arm band, the phone lines jammed instantly.

The first caller to the station in Washington said that Klein must be “off his rocker.” The second congratulated him and added: “Not only do you tattoo them in the middle of their forehead but you ship them out of this country … they are here to kill us.”

Another said that tattoos, armbands and other identifying markers such as crescent marks on driver’s licenses, passports and birth certificates did not go far enough. “What good is identifying them?” he asked. “You have to set up encampments like during World War Two with the Japanese and Germans.”

At the end of the one-hour show, rich with arguments on why visual identification of “the threat in our midst” would alleviate the public’s fears, Klein revealed that he had staged a hoax. It drew out reactions that are not uncommon in post-9/11 America.

“I can’t believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said,” he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland

"For me to suggest to tattoo marks on people’s bodies, have them wear armbands, put a crescent moon on their driver’s license on their passport or birth certificate is disgusting. It’s beyond disgusting.

“Because basically what you just did was show me how the German people allowed what happened to the Jews to happen … We need to separate them, we need to tattoo their arms, we need to make them wear the yellow Star of David, we need to put them in concentration camps, we basically just need to kill them all because they are dangerous.”

[quote]orion wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- When radio host Jerry Klein suggested that all Muslims in the United States should be identified with a crescent-shape tattoo or a distinctive arm band, the phone lines jammed instantly.

The first caller to the station in Washington said that Klein must be “off his rocker.” The second congratulated him and added: “Not only do you tattoo them in the middle of their forehead but you ship them out of this country … they are here to kill us.”

Another said that tattoos, armbands and other identifying markers such as crescent marks on driver’s licenses, passports and birth certificates did not go far enough. “What good is identifying them?” he asked. “You have to set up encampments like during World War Two with the Japanese and Germans.”

At the end of the one-hour show, rich with arguments on why visual identification of “the threat in our midst” would alleviate the public’s fears, Klein revealed that he had staged a hoax. It drew out reactions that are not uncommon in post-9/11 America.

“I can’t believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said,” he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland

"For me to suggest to tattoo marks on people’s bodies, have them wear armbands, put a crescent moon on their driver’s license on their passport or birth certificate is disgusting. It’s beyond disgusting.

“Because basically what you just did was show me how the German people allowed what happened to the Jews to happen … We need to separate them, we need to tattoo their arms, we need to make them wear the yellow Star of David, we need to put them in concentration camps, we basically just need to kill them all because they are dangerous.”
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[quote]orion wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- When radio host Jerry Klein suggested that all Muslims in the United States should be identified with a crescent-shape tattoo or a distinctive arm band, the phone lines jammed instantly.

The first caller to the station in Washington said that Klein must be “off his rocker.” The second congratulated him and added: “Not only do you tattoo them in the middle of their forehead but you ship them out of this country … they are here to kill us.”

Another said that tattoos, armbands and other identifying markers such as crescent marks on driver’s licenses, passports and birth certificates did not go far enough. “What good is identifying them?” he asked. “You have to set up encampments like during World War Two with the Japanese and Germans.”

At the end of the one-hour show, rich with arguments on why visual identification of “the threat in our midst” would alleviate the public’s fears, Klein revealed that he had staged a hoax. It drew out reactions that are not uncommon in post-9/11 America.

“I can’t believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said,” he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland

"For me to suggest to tattoo marks on people’s bodies, have them wear armbands, put a crescent moon on their driver’s license on their passport or birth certificate is disgusting. It’s beyond disgusting.

“Because basically what you just did was show me how the German people allowed what happened to the Jews to happen … We need to separate them, we need to tattoo their arms, we need to make them wear the yellow Star of David, we need to put them in concentration camps, we basically just need to kill them all because they are dangerous.”
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Yeah, that was absolutely disgusting. One reason I’ve given up almost all hope for my country to get its head out of its arse.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

It could never happen here, oh no sir![/quote]

No fair! What do you expect to find hanging out at a Wal-Mart somewhere in the south?

Though I could imagine idiots in NYC, LA, or Chicago saying the same thing.[/quote]

So are you generalizing that all people from the South are ignorant and racist?

CS

Two British tourists were barred from entering America after joking on Twitter that they were going to ‘destroy America’ and ‘dig up Marilyn Monroe’.

Leigh Van Bryan, 26, was handcuffed and kept under armed guard in a cell with Mexican drug dealers for 12 hours after landing in Los Angeles with pal Emily Bunting.

The Department of Homeland Security flagged him as a potential threat when he posted an excited tweet to his pals about his forthcoming trip to Hollywood which read: ‘Free this week, for quick gossip/prep before I go and destroy America’.
Leigh Van Bryan was due to go to Los Angeles with his friend Emily Banting but was stopped when he arrived in the U.S. over tweets he had sent

Leigh Van Bryan was due to go to Los Angeles with his friend Emily Banting but was stopped when he arrived in the U.S. over tweets he had sent

Offending tweet: Mr Bryan told security officials that ‘destroy’ is slang for party in the UK, but that was not enough to convince them

Offending tweet: Mr Bryan told security officials that ‘destroy’ is slang for party in the UK, but that was not enough to convince them

After making their way through passport control at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) last Monday afternoon the pair were detained by armed guards.

Despite telling officials the term ‘destroy’ was British slang for ‘party’, they were held on suspicion of planning to ‘commit crimes’ and had their passports confiscated.

Leigh was also quizzed about another tweet which quoted hit US comedy Family Guy which read: ‘3 weeks today, we’re totally in LA p****** people off on Hollywood Blvd and diggin’ Marilyn Monroe up!

The Department of Homeland Security was recently criticised over false accounts it set up on Twitter.

These are then used to scan networks for ‘sensitive’ words and then for tracking the people who use them.

Online privacy group, the Electronic Privacy Information Centre requested information on the DHS’s scans, which it says the agency announced in February last year.

The group claims that a request under the Freedom of Information Act to access the documentation has gone unanswered.

The words deemed as being sensitive by the DHS include:

Illegal immigrant
Outbreak
Drill
Strain
Virus
Recovery
Deaths
Collapse
Human to animal
Trojan

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Federal agents even searched his suitcase looking for spades and shovels, claiming Emily was planning to act as Leigh’s ‘look out’ while he raided Marilyn’s tomb.

Bar manager Leigh, from Coventry, and Emily, 24, from Birmingham, were then quizzed for five hours at LAX before they were handcuffed and put into a van with illegal immigrants and locked up overnight.
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They spent 12 hours in separate holding cells before being driven back to the airport where they were put on a plane home via Paris.

Leigh, an Irish national, and Emily arrived at Birmingham Airport last Wednesday afternoon.

Emily said: 'The officials told us we were not allowed in to the country because of Leigh’s tweet. They wanted to know what we were going to do.

'They asked why we wanted to destroy America and we tried to explain it meant to get trashed and party.

'I almost burst out laughing when they asked me if I was going to be Leigh’s lookout while he dug up Marilyn Monroe.

'I couldn’t believe it because it was a quote from the comedy Family Guy which is an American show.
As a result of this message, the pair’s luggage was searched for spades

As a result of this message, the pair’s luggage was searched for spades

'It got even more ridiculous because the officials searched our suitcases and said they were looking for spades and shovels. They did a full body search on me too.

‘We just wanted to have a good time on holiday. That was all Leigh meant in his tweet. He would not hurt anyone.’

Leigh posted the tweet on January 16 before the pair flew to LA last Monday.

Leigh said: 'It’s just so ridiculous it’s almost funny but at the time it was really scary. The Homeland Security agents were treating me like some kind of terrorist.
Paperwork handed to Mr Van Bryan confirms that he was questioned by the Department for Homeland Security before entry to the U.S. was denied

Paperwork handed to Mr Van Bryan confirms that he was questioned by the Department for Homeland Security before entry to the U.S. was denied

'I kept saying to them they had got the wrong meaning from my tweet but they just told me “you’ve really f***** up with that tweet boy”.

'When I was in the van I was handcuffed and put in a cage. I had a panic attack but the worse was yet to come.

'When we arrived at the prison I was shoved in a cell on my own but after an hour two huge Mexican men covered in tattoos came in and started asking me who I was.

'They told me they’d been arrested for taking cocaine over the border.

‘When the food arrived on the tray they took it all and just left me with a carton of apple juice.’

After 12 hours in custody they returned to the airport where they were handed documents which stated they had been refused entry to the US.

Emily’s charge sheet stated: ‘It is believed that you are travelling with Leigh-Van Bryan who possibly has the intentions of coming to the United States to commit crimes.’

Leigh’s charge sheet, alongside a police mug shot and finger print, added: 'He had posted on his Tweeter website account that he was coming to the United States to dig up the grave of Marilyn Monroe.

‘Also on his tweeter account Mr Bryan posted that he was coming to destroy America.’

Leigh and Emily have now been told they must apply for visas from the US Embassy in London before flying to the US again.

Feeling safer already?

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

It could never happen here, oh no sir![/quote]

No fair! What do you expect to find hanging out at a Wal-Mart somewhere in the south?

Though I could imagine idiots in NYC, LA, or Chicago saying the same thing.[/quote]

So are you generalizing that all people from the South are ignorant and racist?

CS[/quote]

You are exposing your own biases because I never implied they were racist. If anything I was making fun of people who shop at WalMart…get over it.

Also, did you not finish reading my post?

[quote]orion wrote:
Feeling safer already?
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The only thing that makes me feel safe is that this story was posted in the Daily Mail and so it might be an absolute fabrication…?

Ooops, spoke too soon.

Orion is trolling HARD today.

Way to step up your game sonny boy…

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Orion is trolling HARD today.

Way to step up your game sonny boy…[/quote]

Troll: a pejorative term used to derail and malign a discussion; often following relevant evidence that the offending user cannot contend.

And I think by definition one cannot “troll” ones own thread.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Orion is trolling HARD today.

Way to step up your game sonny boy…[/quote]

Sometimes life gives you lemons, sometimes federal agents that go through someones luggage looking for shovels after having monitored someones Twitter utterings.

If life gives you the latter, make Rage-orade.

[quote]orion wrote:
The words deemed as being sensitive by the DHS include:

Illegal immigrant
Outbreak
Drill
Strain
Virus
Recovery
Deaths
Collapse
Human to animal
Trojan

[/quote]

Well, no wonder I wasn’t allowed into America after I updated my facebook status to; Just saw an illegal immigrant scrambling for a Trojan condom so he could perform a “human-to-animal drilling” to a local goat whose fellow goats recently had an outbreak of a violent strain of a particular virus which causes the goats to collapse from fatigue, eventually leading to death; A disease of which no known cases of recovery have occurred.

… Or maybe it was all that C4 I kept in a box labelled, “Suck it, America! ALALALALALALALALALA!!!”

I guess we’ll never know.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Orion is trolling HARD today.

Way to step up your game sonny boy…[/quote]

Troll: a pejorative term used to derail and malign a discussion; often following relevant evidence that the offending user cannot contend.[/quote]

Or deliberately pick and choosing inflammatory information, that only chooses to highlight the sad state of affairs of someone taking so much care and interest in something that does not affect them in the slightest.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Or deliberately pick and choosing inflammatory information, that only chooses to highlight the sad state of affairs of someone taking so much care and interest in something that does not affect them in the slightest.[/quote]

Ideas affect all of us.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Orion is trolling HARD today.

Way to step up your game sonny boy…[/quote]

Troll: a pejorative term used to derail and malign a discussion; often following relevant evidence that the offending user cannot contend.[/quote]

Or deliberately pick and choosing inflammatory information, that only chooses to highlight the sad state of affairs of someone taking so much care and interest in something that does not affect them in the slightest.[/quote]

You think it wont?

Doubtful.