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Documentary: The Disappearing Male

An interesting find about our bodies and health compare with those of our past. How society and the environment has affected us in ways we never knew.

Good post.

It is being taken way too lightly that men are now experienced decreased testosterone levels. The media might even label that a good thing…until the next war or hostile take-over.

Seems like these ?hormone mimicking? or ?endocrine disrupting? chemicals are going to be hard to avoid without making any drastic lifestyle changes.

[quote]Subject_17 wrote:
Seems like these ?hormone mimicking? or ?endocrine disrupting? chemicals are going to be hard to avoid without making any drastic lifestyle changes.[/quote]

You can’t avoid it without change on worldwide scale. You deal with this by not destroying the concept of testosterone therapy and informing people that being a guy isn’t something you try to prevent.

Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?

When Bieber is considered “a hunk”, there is a problem.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?

When Bieber is considered “a hunk”, there is a problem.[/quote]

Of course. The average guy seems way less…“guy-like” today. They seem very feminine…and they seem to like being that way.

I am not saying that in some “look at these youngin’s” type of tone. Men today look like weak flabby she-men and testosterone is looked down upon and stigmatized as “dangerous” and deadly as if men should be done away with aside from their penises specifically.

We should ban testosterone.

Oh wait…

Considering how long men have been around, the number of men deadlifting heavy is at its most numerous than its ever been.

As long as the deadlift exists, men shall reign supreme.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Considering how long men have been around, the number of men deadlifting heavy is at its most numerous than its ever been.

As long as the deadlift exists, men shall reign supreme.[/quote]

The problem I see today is that being a male does not mean you will become a man.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

informing people that being a guy isn’t something you try to prevent.[/quote]

Never gonna happen.

All you really can do is realize there’s nothing wrong with typical male behaviour and not mold yourself to the expectations society is putting upon you (men). Basically, save yourself because most males aren’t capable of being saved.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Considering how long men have been around, the number of men deadlifting heavy is at its most numerous than its ever been.

As long as the deadlift exists, men shall reign supreme.[/quote]

The problem I see today is that being a male does not mean you will become a man. [/quote]

THIS.

A man is built out of fighting and succeeding through struggle. It’s more than just having a pair of testicles.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?
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Small piece of the puzzle, but a contributing factor, yes.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Subject_17 wrote:
Seems like these ?hormone mimicking? or ?endocrine disrupting? chemicals are going to be hard to avoid without making any drastic lifestyle changes.[/quote]

You can’t avoid it without change on worldwide scale. You deal with this by not destroying the concept of testosterone therapy and informing people that being a guy isn’t something you try to prevent.[/quote]

Can you elaborate on this? Because at face value I’d have to conclude you advocate testosterone therapy for teenagers and young men. I hope that’s not what you are saying.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?
.[/quote]

Small piece of the puzzle, but a contributing factor, yes.

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Video games and the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.

Personally, I love the pussification of men. I’m about as far from being one of these metrosexuals as you’ll come across, so the women out there who like masculine men (the only ones worth fucking as far as I’m concerned) look at me as a rarer and rarer breed every year. I get more and more masculine every year without even trying simply because most of the men around me are sinking further and further into the gutter of despair and gloom.

Fuck, I hit a new PR on deadlifts the other day (485 with no straps or back brace/tampon) and when I dropped it there were about a dozen flabbergasted dudes staring at me in awe. And while a 485 lb deadlift ain’t too shabby for someone my size, it shouldn’t be considerably heavier than what 99.99% of the men in there (many of whom are considerably bigger than me) can pull off the ground.

I swear to fucking God half the guys in there are annoyed when I walk in simply because they know I’m going to head straight for the Olympic platform and start banging some serious weight around when I do cleans or deadlifts. It’s like they don’t like the noise created by the weights hitting the ground at the end of each rep or something. And like I said, a lot of these guys are bigger than me, but they aren’t stronger than me because they’re in there to lift to look better instead of get stronger. Unless you’re genetically fucked, you ain’t gonna get a lot stronger without looking better along the way anyways, but these guys don’t care. It’s all about looks for them, which is pretty much the same mindset as the little cardio bunnies up on the second story of the gym.

So I say encourage all who are bringing down the median masculinity level of men in this country. It doesn’t effect me personally, except to make me look WAY more masculine than I really am in the eyes of the only women worth fucking anyways. In fact, it doesn’t really effect anyone here in a negative way, so what’s the big deal? Elevation by degeneration is what I like to call it. I’m all for it.

Some interesting reads about this phenomenon.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?
.[/quote]

Small piece of the puzzle, but a contributing factor, yes.

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Video games and the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.

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So video games are simultaneously responsible for feminization and increased aggression. Sounds legit.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?
.[/quote]

Small piece of the puzzle, but a contributing factor, yes.

[/quote]

Video games and the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.

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Dem darn video games! Cause of all the worlds wow.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?
.[/quote]

Small piece of the puzzle, but a contributing factor, yes.

[/quote]

Video games and the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.

[/quote]

So video games are simultaneously responsible for feminization and increased aggression. Sounds legit.[/quote]

Yes because the time you devote to video games takes away from real-life socialisation.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could this be the reason for the feminization of today’s males ?
.[/quote]

Small piece of the puzzle, but a contributing factor, yes.

[/quote]

Video games and the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.

[/quote]

So video games are simultaneously responsible for feminization and increased aggression. Sounds legit.[/quote]

Yes because the time you devote to video games takes away from real-life socialisation.
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I’m not gonna even bother with this one. I’ll just get off your lawn and let the thread go back to terrifying me with all the estrogenplastics that are permeating every facet of my life.