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Doctor Please!


#1

First...I'm 25, healthy, lift weights, eat a high calorie protein diet....yet I have a hard time adding any muscle mass.I suffer from ed, premature ejaculation, loss of libido, mood swings and no morning wood. I'm 6' 170 pounds, little facial hair and am the prime example of a beta male. Doctor prescribed me wellbutrin for "depression"and viagra for the ed. Had my blood levels checked thyroid was normal, my T levels came back 600! Wtf. I was hoping they'd be low! I wonder if he'll still consider trt with my average t levels? If not, I'm
Gonna ask to take another blood test....any advice on how to cheat the test? What else could I ask for besides trt that will boost my libido and increase muscle mass? My doctor is very open minded and will write a script for just about anything

Thanks in advance! I apologize for the unorganized questions/info


#2

I would suggest you read the stickies and get the recommended pre-TRT labs done, as there seems to be something else causing your issues. If you find a doc that is ready to put you on TRT at 600, then you should get the hell out of there. It is more likely that estradiol (E2) is causing those problems for you, in which case you may be able to get that under control with some type of monotherapy and not actual T shots.

anyway- my theory could be dead wrong, but you need the labs. if you don’t get them and somehow get a doc to put you on T, you’re just fucking yourself over, committing to years and years of giving yourself shots when you didn’t have to. and it’s not that the shots are a big deal, but I can tell you 100% if I could have my T levels high without all this TRT stuff…absolutely!


#3

[quote]dez6485 wrote:
I would suggest you read the stickies and get the recommended pre-TRT labs done, as there seems to be something else causing your issues. If you find a doc that is ready to put you on TRT at 600, then you should get the hell out of there. It is more likely that estradiol (E2) is causing those problems for you, in which case you may be able to get that under control with some type of monotherapy and not actual T shots.

anyway- my theory could be dead wrong, but you need the labs. if you don’t get them and somehow get a doc to put you on T, you’re just fucking yourself over, committing to years and years of giving yourself shots when you didn’t have to. and it’s not that the shots are a big deal, but I can tell you 100% if I could have my T levels high without all this TRT stuff…absolutely![/quote]

Seconded!


#4

Read the advice for new guys sticky - note first paragraph

then ‘things that damage your hormones’

Get labs below from you doc, otherwise - You can get your own labs in many states, try LEF.com
Others will suggest other sites
Where are you located? - affects your options

You need:
TT
FT
E2
LH/FSH <<<<< very important
TSH
fT3, fT4 [not T3 T4]
total fasting cholesterol [could be too low!]
fasting glucose
AM cortisol, do labs at 8AM
prolactin
CBC

You symptoms can also be related to your thyroid and that can be from not using [long term] iodized salt. You can get a good reading of your thyroid function by checking your waking and mid-afternoon body temperatures. Read the thyroid basics sticky.

Your lowish T is a symptom and you need to find the cause to then get well. Do not have T tunnel vision.

Please provide more info about you and time-line of things not feeling right.


#5

I’m located in New Orleans. I forgot to mention my fasting blood sugar was within normal ranges. my good cholesterol was above average, my bad cholesterol was a little high by like 3 points ( I eat healthy but I eat a lot of egg with yolk), creatinine was high (I take 5mg creatine daily) my testosterone was 684 to be exact.

And my thyroid checked out just fine. (W in normal range) I’ve always had ed problems when it comes to performing…in other words, my pipe is fine I jut get anxious. It started when I was younger about 17…I was always horney but had Ed on several occasions. This continued through college(I would have ed problems about 4/5 times) Im now living w a girl and am having the same problems…add to that premature ejaculation.

I recently asked my doctor for ativan (a benzo similar to Xanax) for the anxiety but that hasn’t helped…I literally took 50 mg viagra and Ativan prior to sex and still had ed/premature problems. I lift weights about 4 times a week, mostly compound movements heavy weight lower reps…and I rarely run if at all… Thanks for y’all’s help btw! Appreciate it! Really good info on here!!

I checked out the stickys btw! Iodine salt? Yeah…Y’all might be on to something there!! I’ve been religiously avoiding food high in salt…adding iodized table salt to my cooking or meal?..can’t remember a time I’ve purposely added it I was told to avoid it since I was a kid!! Dunno if I have hypo tho…I’ve always been skinny nervous, and over active Thanks y’all!!!


#6

Adampulser-

are you reading what people are telling you or just skimming for buzz words? “iodine, how would that help?” read the sticky you were told to read and find the answer to that very question.

you will also find in several stickies that “within range” doesn’t mean shit! plenty of us have numbers within range for whatever hormone, etc, and it can still be far from optimal and the very reason for the symptoms. Read the stickies: advice for new guys, thyroid basics, estradiol why you should care…etc


#7

Yes I read the thyroid sticky right after I posted that…I tried to go back and edit it…don’t think the moderator approved it in time before you read my bullshit post! My apologies!


#8

How do you know your thyroid is OK? Having a doc say so or labs in normal range cannot be trusted. Please investigate as I suggested.


#9

Creatinine and creatine have nothing to do with each other besides the similarity of name. High creatinine is indicative of reduced kidney function. You really need to avoid wasting our time and just post these things with ranges if you want help.


#10

People seeking to enhance muscle performance sometimes take creatine supplements, such as creatine salts or creatine esters. High intake of dietary or supplemental sources of creatine may increase the rate of creatinine production, elevate plasma creatinine and increase creatinine in the urine


#11

Jesus Christ.


#12

Sounding like a 25 year old know it all that can’t follow directions. Post your labs with ranges.


#13

I’ll try and get ahold of the labs. I don’t actually have them on hand, was going off of what The doctor went over with me. Was just tryna give y’all a rough idea of my stats. Sorry!