Btw, Prof. X. aren’t you the boss at your workplace?
I can see it now.
“Um, sir, we have banned all protein consumption on the premises”
“Oh yea?” And then like he explodes as you sip your shake. It would be a cool couple of frames on a comic strip.
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
bpeck wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
You think that people wouldn’t get “too upset” if they were not allowed to eat at work? You’ve got to be kidding me, I don’t know where the hell you work, but I’ve never heard of a place where employees are denied food during an 8 hour workday, that’s insane.
Please point out to me where I agreed to a complete ban of food from the office? If you banned food from being set out in the break rooms or in meetinga then most people would only be mildly upset. A few people like PX would be really upset about the meeting ban.
bpeck
You don’t know what a break room is… Why is that?
Since I’m feeling generous: A break room is the place where many people who work in an office take their breaks. Generally, these rooms include a refrigerator and a microwave for the purposes of storing and reheating lunches and other food items brought from home. You suggested banning food from the break room as some sort of health hazard, and then suggested that people wouldn’t be upset by this.
Every office that I have ever worked in would be full of absolutely pissed off and irate people if the manager went into the break room and threw out all of the food that he didn’t like.
You might be happy sticking your lunch in a warm desk drawer and eating it at your desk, but it’s silly and unrealistic to think that most people would be happy with that arrangement.
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Huh? Now you think I said I don’t know what a break room is? Please show me the quote where I am asking for a description of a break room. I am also still waiting for you to point out where I was advocating a ban of food at work. I never said I agreed with this guy. I have actually stated a couple of times already that I disagree with trying to limit what people eat.
My first post was asking where everyone got the idea that this guy was banning food of any kind in the office. He is banning certain foods from being set out in the break room or from being brought to meetings. The article never mentioned him banning the consumption of those foods in the break room or in someone’s own office/cubicle. The rest of that post was playing Devil’s Advocate to come up with ways he might have been able to pull this off with less backlash. I did not mean to imply that I agreed with his goals. If I gave the wrong impression then I apologize.
bpeck
“If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.”
-Thomas Jefferson
Chotto just rocketed onto my Top T-Nation Member list. I love when obscure long-time-members with levels >4 and posts <300 pop up and drop a nugget of wisdom. You da man!
And sorry bout hi-jacking the thread, OP. Carry on.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
polo77j wrote:
Therizza wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
What happened when they tried to ban alcohol in the 1920s to 1930s? Did it stop people from drinking? There are more than 60% of overweight people in the US that won’t let doughnuts or other type of food from being banned.
Umm… I think they did ban alcohol?
but people found a way to drink anyways (speakeasies) … plus it gave a market to organized crime (bootleggers, Al Capone)
A law that was instituted because a group pushed their own moral agenda claiming alcohol corrupted society that gave power to the morally corrupt aspect of society. Kind of backfired now didn’t it.
Pretty sure the Kennedy’s got all their money from bootlegging too. Although I could be totally fucking wrong about that, and da googles is broken on my computer right now.[/quote]
you are correct, sir. joe kennedy was in the business, from what i understand.
he is a skinny tyrant but if he had not named businesses on his board it would have taken them longer to get rid of him. it was going to happen eventually. he must not think so as he reapplied for the same position, probably without promising to behave better.
[quote]JCS19Y wrote:
Chotto just rocketed onto my Top T-Nation Member list. I love when obscure long-time-members with levels >4 and posts <300 pop up and drop a nugget of wisdom. You da man!
And sorry bout hi-jacking the thread, OP. Carry on.[/quote]
L O L
at the avatar
[quote]taleb wrote:
JCS19Y wrote:
Chotto just rocketed onto my Top T-Nation Member list. I love when obscure long-time-members with levels >4 and posts <300 pop up and drop a nugget of wisdom. You da man!
And sorry bout hi-jacking the thread, OP. Carry on.
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at the avatar[/quote]
Not funny. If Iron Dwarf copyrighted it after he drew it (like I am sure his drawings in Muscle Mag are), it may be even less funny.
[quote]bpeck wrote:
I just can’t think of a time where I went to a meeting and someone brought food and I have been working in an office for 14 years. This excludes lunch meetings and early meetings where they provide food because you might not have had time to eat before the meeting.
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I always take food to meetings, training, conferences, etc. – fruit and/or bag of nuts and/or protein bars and/or shake, etc. wherever I go. I go to client sites with food. If people are more concerned about you eating versus the subject at hand, they probably aren’t competent enough to be attending the meeting anyway, so why give a fuck what they think?
People you meet with regularly get used to it, especially since more times than not, the food becomes a conversation piece. You say “I need to eat often or I pass out” and the mystique and whatever concerns/problems they have are gone.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
bpeck wrote:
I just can’t think of a time where I went to a meeting and someone brought food and I have been working in an office for 14 years. This excludes lunch meetings and early meetings where they provide food because you might not have had time to eat before the meeting.
I always take food to meetings, training, conferences, etc. – fruit and/or bag of nuts and/or protein bars and/or shake, etc. wherever I go. I go to client sites with food. If people are more concerned about you eating versus the subject at hand, they probably aren’t competent enough to be attending the meeting anyway, so why give a fuck what they think?
People you meet with regularly get used to it, especially since more times than not, the food becomes a conversation piece. You say “I need to eat often or I pass out” and the mystique and whatever concerns/problems they have are gone.
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Exactly. I have never had a problem with eating no matter how professional the setting was. People are usually aware from just looking at me that I probably don’t eat like they do so they leave me alone. This is very different from someone who doesn’t even look like they train pulling out a big loud bag of powdered doughnuts and crinkling through it every time someone else is speaking.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Ironic that he works for the health department and yet his coworkers (who presumably also work for the health department) were outraged when he banned donuts.
If he was doing his job well he wouldn’t have had to ban the doughnuts as everyone would’ve been properly educated that doughnuts (equal) diabeetus.
Who the fuck is he to say what his co workers can and can’t eat? He didn’t pay their salaries and he didn’t pay for the facilities, the state and county did.
But, yes, it is a little ironic (and it makes me chuckle inside)[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
polo77j wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Ironic that he works for the health department and yet his coworkers (who presumably also work for the health department) were outraged when he banned donuts.
If he was doing his job well he wouldn’t have had to ban the doughnuts as everyone would’ve been properly educated that doughnuts (equal) diabeetus.
Who the fuck is he to say what his co workers can and can’t eat? He didn’t pay their salaries and he didn’t pay for the facilities, the state and county did.
But, yes, it is a little ironic (and it makes me chuckle inside)
I actually have to agree. No one is going to claim that a donut a year is going to even marginally hurt someone…therefore, donuts themselves are not “unhealthy”. The act of eating donuts all day every day IS unhealthy. His goal should be to fight against the act of eating that crap in excess, not on the food itself.
I work in a clinic and someone is always bringing some type of baked goods in. It isn’t the food’s fault that obese people grab it up every day.
I can see how local business owners could take offense…especially in this economy. The average person working at the donut shop isn’t making over 140k a year.[/quote]
one cigarette a year won’t kill you either.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
We are all in trouble the moment it becomes ok for a government official to dictate what YOU can put in your mouth. It isn’t anyone’s right to FORCE fat people to get skinny no more than should it be right for them to force us to lose muscle.
It is easy to lose rights if you are willing to let things slide as long as it benefits your personal beliefs. That means you will have to deal with it when it doesn’t.[/quote]
1984
[quote]Therizza wrote:
What’s next, beef and beer should be banned?
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Well the U.S. government already has bans on a lot of drugs that are not as bad for your body/brain as alcohol (such as weed, ecstasy, and acid), so I guess I wouldn’t be surprised. They ban some weird shit, and for weird reasons. It’s all about money when it all comes down to it. They are obviously profitting somehow or another off of what they choose to ban.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
bpeck wrote:
I just can’t think of a time where I went to a meeting and someone brought food and I have been working in an office for 14 years. This excludes lunch meetings and early meetings where they provide food because you might not have had time to eat before the meeting.
I always take food to meetings, training, conferences, etc. – fruit and/or bag of nuts and/or protein bars and/or shake, etc. wherever I go. I go to client sites with food. If people are more concerned about you eating versus the subject at hand, they probably aren’t competent enough to be attending the meeting anyway, so why give a fuck what they think?
People you meet with regularly get used to it, especially since more times than not, the food becomes a conversation piece. You say “I need to eat often or I pass out” and the mystique and whatever concerns/problems they have are gone.
Exactly. I have never had a problem with eating no matter how professional the setting was. People are usually aware from just looking at me that I probably don’t eat like they do so they leave me alone. This is very different from someone who doesn’t even look like they train pulling out a big loud bag of powdered doughnuts and crinkling through it every time someone else is speaking.[/quote]
I agree with what you are saying. I don’t work with anyone who is anywhere near your development. You are an exception in the work place. Your second situation is what I was thinking about when I made my statement. I was making a generalization based upon where I work. If there was anyone with serious size in my office and they brought food to a meeting and ate it dicreetly then I wouldn’t have a problem with that. I am sure there are also people with medical situations that would need to have food with them and that is fine. If a some fat bastard brought a box of jelly doughnuts to a one hour meeting I would think that was unnecessary. Do I need to write out any more fine print?
bpeck
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