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Do You Like Your Body When Relaxed?


#1

I dont.
When i see my front double biceps shot, im very pleased. When i see my front relaxed, im very disappointed.
You cant flex your muscles all the time at the beach, right? What do you think?


#2

what is it you are disappointed by?


#3

[quote]Yogi wrote:
what is it you are disappointed by?[/quote]

Hello yogi

My problem is when you look at me relaxed, you dont expect to see the muscles that you see when im posing.

I dont know if i could explain it :)))


#4

I know what you mean, I’m the same way. Boyer Coe talked about being like us, while Chris Dickerson and Serge Nubret were the opposite. There is probably not a lot you can do about it. If you are interested in competition though, then it doesn’t matter, Arnold talked about this is his book as well, how some people explode when they pose and the effect is fantastic.


#5

I re-checked your other thread, and I think another issue you and I share is that our torsos are not as developed as our extremities, and that could be a big part of it.


#6

I’m the complete opposite. My relaxed is my best pose.


#7

[quote]tuttle wrote:
I know what you mean, I’m the same way. Boyer Coe talked about being like us, while Chris Dickerson and Serge Nubret were the opposite. There is probably not a lot you can do about it. If you are interested in competition though, then it doesn’t matter, Arnold talked about this is his book as well, how some people explode when they pose and the effect is fantastic.[/quote]

Yeah i remember that sentence in his book. He said he would open up like an accordion when he started posing and he wasnt as impressive when relaxed. Thats very frustrating man.


#8

Well if you are planning to compete perhaps not.


#9

it’s funny the way our opinion of our bodies can change so much over the course of as small a timeframe as even a day.

Downstairs in my house I have a mirror in a room lit predominantly by floor lamps. Standing in front of that mirror I look ok.

My bathroom is lit by this massive halogen bulb (which I hate, but I rent so there’s not much I can do about it) and in there I look fucking tremendous! Ripped, vascular and at least 20lbs heavier.

Self perception is entirely subjective, and what you see will NEVER match what everyone else sees.

I don’t have a solution to your problem, or really any advice that’ll help whatsoever, you just need to be happy with the progress you made so far (and I remember your thread where you cut, it was awesome!). Just because you don’t like how you looked relaxed, I guarantee that when you’ve got your shirt off somewhere people are noticing, relaxed or not.


#10

Literally every day feels for me


#11

Ok, i decided to let go and enjoy my holiday.
Here is a ’ relaxed ’ selfie of mine.
I am going to the sea :))


#12

I don’t think ill ever like myself relaxed until I surpass 200lbs with less than 8% BF. Which isn’t going to be anytime soon.


#13

I think it’s a good thing. I like being unsatisfied with the way I look. It keeps me motivated to continue to push myself.

Here’s an idea though. Take a picture of yourself doing your best pose. Blow the picture up to the size of your mirror. Tape it on top of your mirror. Repeat for all mirrors in the house, and maybe some random walls as well. Now you’ll never have to see yourself relaxed. You’ll be posing all the time!!!


#14

[quote]Gorillakiv83 wrote:
My problem is when you look at me relaxed, you dont expect to see the muscles that you see when im posing.[/quote]
So you’re a grower, not a show-er. Nothing at all wrong with that.

Seriously, man, you’re entirely in your own head (no pun intended). Getting upset with yourself because you think other people don’t think you lift is a sad way to go through life. A reality check and a little self-esteem would go a long way with you.

Go double-check your other thread where you posted your fatter pics from last year. You’ve made ridiculous progress. If you can’t see that, it’s because you’ve got “just ain’t good enough-glasses” on, which isn’t nearly as hardcore or awesome a mindset as some people think.

On the more actionable side of things, some coaches believe that resting muscle tonus (myogenic tone) can be improved with plain old heavy lifting, compared to moderate-rep range stuff.
http://www.t-nation.com/article/most_recent/lets_get_nasty
So if you don’t do much heavy work in the 3-4 (or below) rep range, maybe find a way to work it in.


#15

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
I think it’s a good thing. I like being unsatisfied with the way I look. It keeps me motivated to continue to push myself.

Here’s an idea though. Take a picture of yourself doing your best pose. Blow the picture up to the size of your mirror. Tape it on top of your mirror. Repeat for all mirrors in the house, and maybe some random walls as well. Now you’ll never have to see yourself relaxed. You’ll be posing all the time!!![/quote]

Haha thats a great idea but like you said, i think being unsatisfied with how you look is a great motivation source. I am on vacation right now and already designing my game plan for this season to come back better next year.


#16

Thanks Chris. I am planning to train in that rep range for a while and add some 100 rep sets as a finisher like Paul Carter advises. Im very impressed with what he did to Fred Smalls’ physique.


#17

First, I agree that you’ve made excellent progress, as per your other thread.

But I can kind of see what you mean, and I think tuttle has the right idea, as far as torso vs extremity development.

If I were to pinpoint anything, I think more growth in your traps and upper chest will make the most significant visual difference. After that, your lats.

Even if they’re not as magical as some people claim, you might enjoy a training cycle using SGHPs. see: https://www.T-Nation.com/training/high-pull-for-the-power-look and a few form check threads like this: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_thibaudeau/sghp_form_check_please and results threads like: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_thibaudeau/officially_a_fan_of_sghp_for_tra_work

There are obviously a number of other options.


#18

[quote]Yogi wrote:
it’s funny the way our opinion of our bodies can change so much over the course of as small a timeframe as even a day.

Downstairs in my house I have a mirror in a room lit predominantly by floor lamps. Standing in front of that mirror I look ok.

My bathroom is lit by this massive halogen bulb (which I hate, but I rent so there’s not much I can do about it) and in there I look fucking tremendous! Ripped, vascular and at least 20lbs heavier.

Self perception is entirely subjective, and what you see will NEVER match what everyone else sees.

I don’t have a solution to your problem, or really any advice that’ll help whatsoever, you just need to be happy with the progress you made so far (and I remember your thread where you cut, it was awesome!). Just because you don’t like how you looked relaxed, I guarantee that when you’ve got your shirt off somewhere people are noticing, relaxed or not.[/quote]

So much this
why care so much about being a noticeably big dude? End goal for anyone lifting (as someone else said in this topic) is 180-200ish <10%, depending how tall and that should be it, you’ll look good even in the most awkward positions if you hit those numbers.
Sh*t will take serious time for anyone except lucky dudes. If you aren’t one of those Instagram models work for it and don’t care so much about the selfies

Also, tanning helps. So enjoy your holidays :slight_smile:


#19

Because I felt like playing with photoshop for a minute.

Very quick photoshop work, but here’s what I mean by “more traps and upper chest”.


#20

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Because I felt like playing with photoshop for a minute.

Very quick photoshop work, but here’s what I mean by “more traps and upper chest”.[/quote]

Man, thanks for spending your time on photoshopping me, you gave me a goal to work towards.
Since i am leaner now, i can see what i hid under bodyfat for years and i saw that my traps are seriously lacking. Actually its not a surprise because deadlifts and shrugs are two movements that i neglected most.
I think that also explains why my hams and glutes are weak.
This year everything will change. I promised this to myself.