DNC 2012

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Intentionally thick, are we?

There is an affidavit where she states that she was not raped.

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Intentionally stupid? See my comment above where she recanted the denial in that affidavit and see her letter to Hillary three years after the affidavit which she says she filed to avoid having to testify:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/juanita.htm

Furthermore, after the affidavit was filed 'Broaddrick filed a lawsuit against Clinton (in the summer of 1999,) to obtain documents which the White House may have gathered about her, claiming its refusal to accede to her demand for such documents violated the Privacy Act of 1974…In his book, Sellout: The Inside Story of President Clinton’s Impeachment, Schippers said he wanted to call Broaddrick as a witness to discuss Clinton’s intimidation, but it was too late…

Michael Isikoff’s book, Uncovering Clinton, and Christopher Hitchens’ book, No One Left to Lie To, argued that Broaddrick’s claim is credible and shows similarities to Paula Jones’ later allegation of sexual harassment. Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen commented, "And yet, I cannot get [Broaddrick’s] accusation out of my head. On television, and in interviews with newspaper reporters, Broaddrick appeared credible.’

Liberal beacon The Washington Post? Hitchens pre-911?[/quote]

So?

She went back and forth and back and forth.

Either way she is a liar.

I consider the bar that has to be cleared before I call someone a rapist to be a rather high one, you on the other hand are apparently ready to point your finger and engage in histrionics with the flimsiest of evidence.

No.

Rapist or not, I’m pretty sure we can all agree, Clinton is not someone to be championing for Women or their rights.

Plus I never knew women had it so bad in America, you would think this was an Arab country or something the way they are talking.

[quote]JEATON wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Apparently before Obamacare, being a women was a, “preexisting condition.” [/quote]

Where is Push with his “solid gold” picture when you need it. [/quote]

That’s not my quote, but one of the speaker’s at the DNC.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Rapist or not, I’m pretty sure we can all agree, Clinton is not someone to be championing for Women or their rights.
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If someone is qualified to speak on birth control, it is probably him.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Deval Patrick told what it would be like if Romney were elected (NOT GOOD) [/quote]

Well to be honest some of Patrick’s speech was misleading, to put it nicely.

Mass was 47th in job creation, because it at 4.5% unemployment. Hard to create jobs when everyone that wants one has one.

Mass was 49th in debt when he came in, 50th when Mitt left, majority of that is bonds used to fix the roads and bridges Patrick was crying about.

As for the budget deficit, not sure how that works considering he left the state with a 2 billion dollar rainy day fund that Patrick dipped into over and over and over again.

When Patrick brags about being able to be Gay and Married in MA, yeah well, romney is the one who ordered it, so ah, all the gay people can thank him.

Mitt did make some mistakes. Romneycare sucks and we still have the highest health insurance costs in the nation, and he ended some programs that have resulted in difficulty coordinating with the private sector contractors.

EDIT: I don’t really mind Patrick, he has done a decent job. I gained a lot of respect for him with the way he handled the casino bills. He said the bill needed contract bidding or he would veto it, the pigs didn’t put in the bidding, and he vetoed the shit out of it.
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I agree both sides are guilty of mis and dis information . I thought one of the high lights was Ted Kennedy’s debate with Mitt for Ted’s Senate seat, he kicked romney’s ass

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Bill Clinton, who raped a woman as governor, molested an intern in the oval office, lied under oath and was disbarred:

“They tell us they’re good husbands, good fathers and good Americans. Totally self-made. And you can trust me…” he said, summing up how he interpreted the speeches in at last week’s Republican convention in Tampa, Fla.[/quote]

You actually believe Bill Clinton molested (you mean sexually right?) Monica Lewinsky? Really?[/quote]

Whatever you think he was 30-years older than her. Maybe not as bad as JFK and his brother Bobby molesting the same 17-year-old though.[/quote]

If you were 22-23 and had consensual sex with a woman in her 50’s… would you consider yourself to be sexually molested? Or would you consider yourself an adult able to make your own decisions?

In terms of Lewinsky he didn’t do anything wrong. A philanderer and a liar yes, a molester no.

[quote]orion wrote:

So?

She went back and forth and back and forth.

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No she didn’t. She only recanted the affidavit you mentioned and said it was because she didn’t want to be forced to testify. See below and above.

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I consider the bar that has to be cleared before I call someone a rapist to be a rather high one, you on the other hand are apparently ready to point your finger and engage in histrionics with the flimsiest of evidence.

No. [/quote]

Not flimsy no. Here are the known facts:

'In 1992, presidential candidate Bill Clinton, then Governor of Arkansas and a former state attorney general, was caught up in a swirl of allegations that he was your basic womanizer. One woman, Gennifer Flowers, came forward in a formal press conference to say that she in fact had been a Clinton paramour. She produced audiotapes of Clinton talking with her over the phone – talking about both the intimacy of their personal relationship…

Next, candidate Clinton along with wife Hillary, then both newcomers to the national scene, took to the set of the CBS show 60 Minutes to acknowledge problems in their marriage but insist all was now well. Come November, Clinton was president-elect.

Soon enough – in late 1993 – the “Troopergate” scandal erupted, revealed in the pages of The American Spectator. With allegations that Arkansas state troopers had been used during Clintonâ??s governorship to assist the governor with his womanizing.

In early 1998, out of the seeming blue, another Clinton “bimbo eruption” (as his staff called them) erupted. This one would not go away…

One of the women involved was Juanita Broaddrick. Ms. Broaddrick, a nursing home administrator and successful professional, had been a campaign volunteer in Clinton’s 1978 campaign when then-Attorney General Clinton was running for governor…The argument failed to persuade Mr. Clinton, who, she says, got her onto the bed, held her down forcibly and bit her lips. The sexual entry itself was not without some pain, she recalls, because of her stiffness and resistance…“I felt paralysed and I was starting to cry.” Then he looked at me and said, 'You better put some ice on that. And then he left. Her friend Norma Rogers, a nurse who had accompanied her on the trip, found her on the bed. She was, Ms. Rogers related in an interview, in a state of shock - lips swollen to double their size, mouth discolored from the biting, her pantyhose torn in the crotch."

At one point early on Broaddrick had even denied the story in an affidavit out of fear. But when the lawyers for Clinton’s special prosecutor Kenneth Starr came to her, realizing lying to a federal prosecutor in a presidential impeachment trial was at a whole other level, Broaddrick came forth with her story.

But the first impeachment jury – members of the U.S. House – read of her tale. Broaddrick’s testimony to the special prosecutor was known as “Jane Doe No. 5” and kept in a closed “evidence room” where Congressmen had to go, read the material, and leave. One of those was Connecticut’s moderate Republican Christopher Shays, who later gave this interview to a local radio station. Said Shays of Clinton and the rape allegation from Juanita Broaddrick:

“I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 yrs ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event.”

At one point, interviewer Tom Scott bluntly asks of Shays: “Do you personally believe our president is a rapist?”

Shays responded: “I would like not to say it that way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick.”

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/23/bill-clinton-and-legitimate-ra/2

How did this become about Clinton? He’s going to speak and by next week that speech will be forgotten or not even heard by most voters.

Issues people, what issue do you a agree or disagree with at the convention?

I heard multiple times President Obama praised for killing Bin Laden. He should get little credit for this event. He gave the order, that’s it. The military came up with the plan and executed it to get the job done. The intelligence community gathered the info they needed to get it done. What exact did the President do?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

oh and this:

I missed all this, but thee Romney camp is going to have a field day with this line.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I thought one of the high lights was Ted Kennedy’s debate with Mitt for Ted’s Senate seat, he kicked romney’s ass[/quote]

Well, I wouldn’t want Teddy the drunk “murderer” who also fought tooth and nail to prevent the wind farm on the Cape as my champion either, but that is just me.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

oh and this:

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I missed all this, but thee Romney camp is going to have a field day with this line.[/quote]

The media, as awesome as they are, are largely ignoring it…

Shitty press is shitty.

I am not property.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

The media, as awesome as they are, are largely ignoring it…

Shitty press is shitty.

I am not property. [/quote]

I believe Romney tweeted (?) something to the effect of “we don’t belong to the government, the government belongs to us.”

Outstanding.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

In terms of Lewinsky he didn’t do anything wrong. [/quote]

I don’t know man. I feel like cheating on your wife with an intern is wrong.

But I know what you are getting at.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

The media, as awesome as they are, are largely ignoring it…

Shitty press is shitty.

I am not property. [/quote]

I believe Romney tweeted (?) something to the effect of “we don’t belong to the government, the government belongs to us.”

Outstanding.[/quote]

From V for Vendetta as well I believe, though I don’t expect him to start donning Guy Fawkes masks and blowing up British buildings.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I thought one of the high lights was Ted Kennedy’s debate with Mitt for Ted’s Senate seat, he kicked romney’s ass[/quote]

Well, I wouldn’t want Teddy the drunk “murderer” who also fought tooth and nail to prevent the wind farm on the Cape as my champion either, but that is just me.[/quote]

I was just saying it was funny how that drunk murderer made Romney look like a flip flopin SOB

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

The media, as awesome as they are, are largely ignoring it…

Shitty press is shitty.

I am not property. [/quote]

I believe Romney tweeted (?) something to the effect of “we don’t belong to the government, the government belongs to us.”

Outstanding.[/quote]

Yeah, I am hoping it gets some legs. This whole “you’re taking the socialist comments out of context” defense cannot continue to hold up if they keep saying them. But alas, the Obama bots and the large amount of pro-socialist youth in this nation will rally behind this.

Sort of like the “it is patriotic to pay your fair share of taxes”. Nice one. I mean that is why Washington lead the farmers into battle with the Brits, because the Crown wasn’t charging high enough taxes.

Good article here: Denialist Democrats

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I thought one of the high lights was Ted Kennedy’s debate with Mitt for Ted’s Senate seat, he kicked romney’s ass[/quote]

Well, I wouldn’t want Teddy the drunk “murderer” who also fought tooth and nail to prevent the wind farm on the Cape as my champion either, but that is just me.[/quote]

I was just saying it was funny how that drunk murderer made Romney look like a flip flopin SOB
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He is a flip flopping SOB. Can’t deny that. But at least he isn’t Obama.

fucking great

Oh here is a video of Obama’s political experience from 20 years ago… Oh wait.

Well, here is how well he did in school, and all those marxist, oops I mean progressive classes and teachers he mentored under… Oh wait.

Okay, okay, here is a copy of all the law review papers he wrote as president of the Harvard Law Review… Oh, yeah, that too. huh.

Well shit, lets elect him because Ted Kennedy won a debate with Mitt.