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DK's Paraworkout Protocol...


#1


....begins Monday.


#2

Protocol I will be using:

-60 Alpha-GPC
-45 1 FINiBAR
-30 2 Surge Workout Fuel
-15 2 Surge Recovery + 5g creatine
0 1 Surge Workout Fuel + 20g PeptoPro
+60 20g PeptoPro + 5g creatine


#3

im doing the almost the same protocol as you, but im doing 1 Surge Recovery + 24g of peptopro during workout. I thought this was advised. can anyone tell us which is recomended


#4

[quote]bwbski wrote:
im doing the almost the same protocol as you, but im doing 1 Surge Recovery + 24g of peptopro during workout. I thought this was advised. can anyone tell us which is recomended[/quote]

From reading the threads, and my notes I kept on the variations, using SR during the workout was if you didn’t have CH (peptopro/anaconda/mag10 protein), the variations that had CH usually had just that, or that and SWF.

A question for you - where did you get the 24g from? Everything I’ve read has it at 20g.

I’m also changing what I am doing already, the creatine is going in during the workout, instead of before. It’s just a little easier for me since I will have to be lugging everything to work and am already going to be bringing 3 different bottles. I doubt that variation will have much of a difference.


#5

24g is a full scoop of what im using


#6

My mind is blown this thread is still up…


#7

Some starting stats:

Weight: 179.4

Ab Skinfold: 28

Chest: 99
Arm: 33
Waist: 87.5
Thigh: 61


#8

For those who aren’t anal enough to run the numbers, for those interested the protocol (at least the one I am using) ends up being right around $13 per workout. Pretty pricey. I am already using Surge Reocvery/Creatine, and usually have a “snack” before I lift, and sometimes get two post-workout meals.

Since the pre is taken care of with this, and a little bit of the post is as well, I don’t have to have the other food to get. I figure changing from what I normally do to this ends up being about $8 or so. Still pretty pricey. We’ll see how it goes.

And how many calories or protein in this paraworkout protocol?

Calories: 985
Protein: 86
Fat: 13.5
Carbs: 151


#9

Day 1

Wow that’s a lot of water to take down. Bit of a pain. First workout done. No crazy pumps or strength increases, although through my whole workout I was pretty much ready to go, no real decline in performance throughout. We’ll see how sore I am tomorrow and how that workout goes.


#10

Day 2:

Still no crazy strength gains, although repping out felt easier. Soreness was almost non-existant from yesterday’s workout. Today’s and how I feel tomorrow will be the test since I really beat on my lower body.

I actually think I might be overtrained a bit from my last cycle and maxing out at the end of it, that might be masking a bit of the effect.


#11

Just so you know, I’m interested in this protocol and will be checking this thread periodically for your results. So don’t hesitate to post in it thinking it’s a waste of time.


#12

[quote]Otep wrote:
Just so you know, I’m interested in this protocol and will be checking this thread periodically for your results. So don’t hesitate to post in it thinking it’s a waste of time.[/quote]

Thanks for letting me know. I was getting a bit disheartened by the apparent lack of interest on it. I’ll try to keep up a few posts a week.


#13

Day 3/4:

Well, turns out it didn’t save my legs from being sore - they were killer for a couple days afterwards. Of course, this was the first time in awhile I trained them that hard so some DOMS was to be expected.

Day 3 went well, one interesting thing was my first set of pull ups, I got to about 10 and thought I might be able to squeek one more out. Well I did one more rep, so I thought I’d try for another - then another - then another, ended up doing 14 or 15, which is more typical of if I would have been doing them first in the workout, not partially through it.

Day 4 finally went pretty good, not sure if it was the protocol or what, but I worked up in Squats to close to my max for a set of 4. I was feeling pretty dead at the end of the workout, and as of now there isn’t a whole lot of soreness, of course DOMS usually peaks 24-36 hours after the workout, so I’ll be finding out for sure over the next part of the day.

Just a side note, it also seems my arms are a lot more vascular than usual, almost to the point of being freaky-looking.


#14

[quote]DK wrote:
Some starting stats:

Weight: 179.4

Ab Skinfold: 28

Chest: 99
Arm: 33
Waist: 87.5
Thigh: 61[/quote]

WK1 Stats:

Weight: 186.2

Ab Skinfold: 25

Chest: 104
Arm: 33.5
Waist: 88
Thigh: 62

Weight and girth measurements up, and ab skinfold down. Weight up 7lbs is a bit ridiculous. My last two meals yesterday were out to eat, so maybe I am dealing with a bit of sodium overload/water retention. Another thought is on this protocol I am taking 10g creatine instead of my usual 5g so I might be holding some more water there. Potentially it could be muscle, but I can’t believe that is the case…we’ll see what next week brings.


#15

I’ll be reading too…


#16

I’ll be reading too, please keep your thread updated.


#17

I’m starting mine this week! Keep us posted…


#18

i got a question. why no L-Leucine? from my understanding of Thibs threads, L-Leucine was the magic that allowed Anaconda to work. i do suppose Surge Workout Fuel and Surge Recovery have L-Leucine in it anyways


#19

any before pics?


#20

For me, the protocol blows. Drinking all that pre workout doesn’t sit well with me and if I do half way through my workout I’m wanting to hurl right there in the squat rack.