When I was 111 pound I thought I would be happy at 135. Then when I got to 135 I saw fight club and I wanted to be 155. Then when I got to 155 I saw the bodies of boxers, track athletes, and other guys and I wanted to be 185, then even before I made it to 185 I saw bodybuilders like Stefan Havik and powerlifters like Matt Kroc and I now I defiantly want to be at least over 225.
So that’s a 90 pound difference in what I thought my “ideal body” would be. Your ideas will likely change too over the course of fighting to gain muscle and gaining new perceptions of what’s jacked and what isn’t.
x2 The exact same thing happened to me.
I think having a good bw to lift ratio is mostly genetic and has to do with you’re level of training (years). Just train for strength and eat for size. As the years go by, your ratio will get better and better.[/quote]
To add to that, I think in training to bring both strength and size to a maximum you will eventually fall into what you are best suited for.
Trey Brewer started out training as a Powerlifter and fell into bodybuilding.
Justin Harris started out training as a Bodybuilder and fell into powerlifting.
You really can’t go wrong with trying to get both big and strong. If you find out 5 or 8 years down the road that you can gain a lot of strength with little mass gains then great, you’re better suited for powerlifting. If you find out that you can make big gains in lean mass with little or no change to your strength gains then great, you’re better suited for bodybuilding.
But you won’t be able to know for sure which path is better for you without spending a good, long while pursuing both strength and size.
And rest assured, there is no diet or training program out there that will get you ‘too big’ without your full knowledge.