Please remove the “T. Vixen” part of your handle. Immediately. That wasn’t fast enough. Now clean and press it, and toss it to E~Pluribus Unum. If you are unfamiliar with the proper form of a clean and press or if you simply do not possess the strength to do so, simply hand it to her; that will suffice. Please wash your hands first. Thoroughly.
Joel
Whoowee, honey. Remind me never to piss you off… Gotta love a girl that can give it as good as she can take it.
I, for one, couldn’t care less like what you’re like, who you are, and whether or not you screw cattle. I read T-mag because they’ve differentiated themselves from the cookie-cutter softcore porn/weightlifting mags out there. TC makes points when he writes his T-dawg articles, and they usually make you think. You just raved on and on about how you can’t find anyone that meets your standards of a sex partner without providing any cohesion or overlaying theme that might apply to the average reader. I’m sorry, but that’s not what I thought T-mag was about. All forum posters are consumers of this magazine, and hopefully our opinions are heard and appreciated. The overall consensus is that your article was not the type of material we expect from this magazine. If you can’t stand critism and feel the need to respond with a long-winded post based around cliched phrases, great… you get a say too. But the resounding message to you is: “We hated it.” Sorry. If you don’t like public criticism, stop publishing articles.
Holy Crap Mo!..never a dull moment with you around is there?
PLEASE:
Lets all take a deep breath…puff…puff…puff…
It was an ARTICLE for Christ’s sake!, not an autobiography, not an affidavit and certainly not an “Ad for penis”. If you did not like it fine but try to remember that articles are CREATIVE WRITING and NOTHING MORE! Who here thinks that they “Know” T.C because they read his articles? Shugs? CT? do you think that they should be defined as human beings because of ONE ARTICLE? (and a fairly angry post, granted…)…of course not! Holy shit folks.
We, as a TESTOSTERONE NATION should applaud Mo’s stones and her fire, if my balls were that big I don’t think I could sit down! Now she certainly does not need 'Cake to defend her and as I have said before, I did not care for her first article either but I am sure that the best is yet to come if she has the kind of sack to spit it back in your face like this then I for one am going to enjoy having her around.
Besides, it doesn’t sound like she wants to go anywhere anyway…
P.S I’d hit it!
“Anger is as a stone cast into a wasp’s nest”
~ Pope Paul VI
ditto Magnus, ditto Patricia.
and on an entirely separate note: You write well, irrespective of subject.
Let’s see if I can be level headed here.
The article was bad, granted. Crude and in poor taste. Not funny. Not informative. Not entertaining. Not really even controversial - just bad.
If a man had written it, it would have still been bad. If TC had written it, it would have been bad (only if TC had written it, we’d have forgiven him since he normally writes great stuff.) This is not a gender issue.
The issue is that the article was bad and Maureen came off as a very unlikeable person.
All that may be true, but there’s no reason to play the “ugly card”, although I admit when someone comes off as conceited, it’s easy to play that card. But it’s immature and moves us away from the core issue, that being this was a bad, bad article.
But I’m not worried that T-mag is “selling out”. They like to shock us sometimes. They like to get us talking. It worked! My, my, what would you all have argued about this week if it hadn’t been for that article? It was kinda fun, wasn’t it? So in a way I guess the article was entertaining, though still very bad, like Jerry Springer.
And as someone else pointed out in another thread, the other articles this week were very, very good.
Did I mention the article by Maureen was bad?
Harkonen nailed it.
I was gonna reply, but at this time itll simply add insult to injury.
This topic is a wee hot at the time.
I’ve just come back from a long ass holiday, and all I can say is WOW, fucking WOW! I’ve had a lotta reading to catch up on, and the mood sure is getting tense around here.
Maureen, hold your head up. While I agree with others that the topic was slightly out of context, I feel that there is no need for such personal attacks from the majority of the readers. I’d almost guarantee if you were Jennifer Love Hewitt, who for some strange reason ‘mingled’ on the forums, you’d have dozens of readers emailing TC asking whether or not they can get hold of your email address/phone number. Those that wrote letters of complaint on the forum would be asked ‘Dude, are you gay?’
Seriously, what’s the big deal fellas? We spend each day, sitting through bad traffic, eating six times a day, taking a lotta shits…what’s 10 mins to read an article that you may or may not have liked?? That’s what life is. It ain’t always gonna be constructive!
This is her FIRST article. You learn from experience. She has now learnt that it isn’t about ‘what is written’, but rather ‘who has written it’ that determines the type of reaction she gets. Even the T-mag team has learnt something from this. Hopefully, this can be used in a positive note, and she may write something about training…
Have a nice day
L_O_W
Please remove the “T. Vixen” part of your handle. Immediately.
bravo Mr. Marion. couldn’t agree more. there’s nothing worse than a woman with a big mouth, no class, and no respect. this chick is the antithesis of T-Vixens/T-men everywhere. on that note i’m done wit dis.
now where was i in Waterbury’s Hypertrophy article…hmm…
–T.Vixen in training, can i be like E~ when i grow up?
Anathema- Should be your new handle.
I think at one point or another we have ALL found our self in a similar position!
Perhaps the topic of our candor we express is different.
But we all have done said something to create a fuss, strong reactions, even out rite banishment from those who were privy to witness our words.
Did we stand tall and defend our words? Or slink away? She is standing taller then a ballerina on point! That’s cool.
I have little to say about her views written in this issue. They don’t represent me, or my feelings.
I can’t say I had much reaction to her article!
It was a little to
(IN YOU FACE FUCKER’S)
for me.
Not my style. I’m now expressing my opinion because I have been named.
I think you lost some of the polarity that could have allowed the Masculine identity to identify with your points.
It is an important to treat all Masculine energy with respect- be it in a female or a male as we both have it.
It is an art, to write, opening up and talking about things most wouldn’t, or choose to leave in the personal box.
Art creates a reaction, this has been achieved. That means on some level it was a success.
She has provoked many. More important than who, or why she did it, is to figure out why you’re feeling the way you are. It is an opportunity to look at where you see females and sexual expression. I think that is important.
Her vehicle of expression may not be the best way YOU receive information.
She has “balls”; they have got her thus far.
That is strength, the same that allows us to stare at the looming weight and believe enough in our self to over come it!!!
I see her as clever in her business tactic, no publicity is bad publicity.
Who knows she may be the female version of Howard Stern! He has reached a level of success. It may not be your idea of success, but nonetheless his candor is unique.
Not that I care to invest my time in Howard- but some do!
I say give her time, it was one article and I wouldn’t guess an easy topic for many to cover.
Side note: All the public display of reaction is only going to serve her in the long run. She has proven she has an effect.
Is anyone paying attention to this!?
As has been pointed out there will always be different opinions on topics and I agree that we don’t have to read your article (I chose not to as I thought it would be a huge waste of time but that others might like it)…
But aren’t you really crossing a line here?
You’re publicly attacking a large majority of TMag readers!
That’s something that Chris, TC, or Tim have never done. When they’re faced with defferent opinions or even insulted they merely express their thoughts but never explicitely attack or insult readers, just look at how Chris handled his negative responses on the forum for his Be the Hammer article.
Your response shows that you obviously were bothered by this and as unprofessional as your article seemed in the first few paragraphs this response was even more so.
You were right with one comment you made about being able to go to another site though, and I’m afraid that posts like that especially from someone who claims to be a weekly writer now will defenitly acheive that.
Again I agree with a lot of your points, but don’t you think you could have been a little more professional in your response, even if most of the attacks against you weren’t? You are after all claiming to be a TVixen…
Here’s my 2 cents:
THE GOOD: She can write. She knows what she wants. She can talk like a guy. She can throw shit back. She seems to prefer honesty. She seems in control of most of her life. Better than average knowledge.
THE BAD: Over promise, under-deliver. Holier-than-thou or trash talk. No middle ground or concessions. 'Nuff-said.
OTHER POINTS:
HYPOCRISY. Like if men looking and (locker-room) talking of women and the sex potential was the secret of the gods. Yeah, right! Ever wondered why we don’t talk it (usually) face-to-face with women? Simple: Most of them can’t handle the truth. Tell them the small truth that body part X is not 100% absolutely the best of the bestest, and POOF, instant self-image shatter. IT’S A RARE GIRL THAT CAN TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS: TRUTH. Bonus: That’s the type of woman we men respect most, too. Many many women prefer living in the ‘I can seduce’ dreamland. Wanting too look good is one thing. When your whole life revolves around it, bad. So, it’s not we don’t want to talk about it. It’s just women don’t really want to hear it. Hence the locker-room behavior.
MEN’S EMPHASIS ON SEX: Yes, we men think of sex often. Just curious to see how small that would be if we compared that to how many times women think of their sexiness or what others think of them. I guess the huge sums of money going into female (vs male) cosmetics is just a pure coincidence, eh? We’re honest on our ‘sex needs’. Women know it. Women use it to their advantage. Not naturally well endowed in the looks department? Oh my God! Could character (healthy, balanced, open-minded personality) be the hidden key that divides the bimbo from the bitch from the T-Vixen? That’s a big part of the charm of E-Pluribus-Unum and Cassanova’s sustained interest: personality.
JUDGE, JURY, EXECUTIONER. Last-time I looked at this website, it was called Testosterone. Don’t expect baby talk in the feedback. You’ll get feedback of every type, good and bad. Opinionated people here. You post publicly, you get public feedback. Don’t like the feedback? Don’t publish. Write differently. Write a diary.
Feel free to question.
Does anyone know what happened to Michelle and Demo Dick? I have not seen them around for months. And Maureen, this can be a tough forum at times. Just don’t admit to being a left wing whacko also or we may have to scrape your remains off the picture of Hot-Rox to the side. You can weather this shit storm. It sounds like you must have some good Irish stock. Good luck.
Apparently the new definition of T-Vixen is a Malibu Stacey with a weight set. “Don’t ask me, I’m just a girl.”
And whats with the F-bombs? Is it Spring Break and all the junior high schoolers are logged on? Maybe before people run around calling themselves T-men they ought to learn what a “man” is.
My complaint about the article was that it seemed to lack a logical conclusion or metaphorical point. That said, the whole experience-- article plus two heated thread in response-- has been rather entertaining, if slightly time consuming. If the point of the article was simply to stir the shit, then I congratulate you. By the way, everyone involved has taken this whole thing WAY too seriously and personally. I do rather enjoy the chaos though.
“God has given us the papacy, let us enjoy it”
~Pope Leo X~
To be honest, I’m just surprised that none of the boys on the forum have said that they would grab their roommate and offer to double-team Maureen old school style.
I dont’ know…I think a lot of this “justification” is just off-base. All the way around.
First, the “don’t read the friggin’ article” position is, to me, baseless. You always read every article on T-mag all the way through (at least I do), because you never know when something’s going to start out as sex and segue into training/nutrition (there are more examples of this than I can list), just like you never know when TC’s gonna throw an off-color joke into a training article. That’s one of the nice things about T-mag: it’s not monochromatic.
Second, why does it have to be that if a guy doesn’t like something that a woman writes, he automatically has to be “scared of” or “threatened by” it/her? Is this something that women just tell themselves to make themselves feel better? Believe me, there was nothing in there that was remotely frightening. We just didn’t like the damn article. End of story.
Third, the reason that I, anyway, didn’t like the story was that it didn’t tell me anything new. I mean, come on. If a guy had written it, would there have been any reason for TC to have run the thing? Let’s see…
“Hi, I’m Jack and I haven’t gotten off in two years. I used to have a girlfriend, but lately I just can’t find a woman who’s smart enough and built enough to appeal to me. A tough stance, but hey - someone’s gotta stick up for standards in this world.”
You and I and everyone else out there in T-land knows that every woman who reads this forum (and a lot of the men) would have immediately logged on and flamed the everlovin’ crap out of the author. And deservedly so.
But if it’s men reacting to what a woman wrote? Oh, then we must be insecure in our collective masculinity.
Please.
No. It was just a suck article. End of story.
What’s your MAX BENCH?
Weapon X- Apparently the new definition of T-Vixen is a Malibu Stacey with a weight set. “Don’t ask me, I’m just a girl.”
Ahh it’s Sally from the Vally!!! Get it rite!
DAN C- Write a diary.
Ha
Steven F- What’s your MAX BENCH!!
HAAAA ha
Yep I’am still here!!!
Thought I would get in on more buble bursting!!!