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Dianabol and Nolva?

So I’m about to start a cycle, and I’m curious if anyone has had experience with taking Nolva throughout the entire cycle along with Dianabol. I’ve read that the water retention and problems with too much estrogen can be controlled better by doing that, but am having trouble finding anyone with personal experience.

I’m wondering if that will limit the strength and muscle gains mainly. I will also be taking winny as well during the cycle.

As for dosing assuming I go with nolva throughout the cycle, does 20mg a day sound good, and then bumping it up once I start PCT? Any input would be appreciated.

That’s because most people that have done the research know that you don’t take a SERMS during a cycle, but reather take an AI.

If you are concerned about the bloat, you might want to stay away from the d-bol. It’s the water retention that gives you your strength increases.

Research is a powerful tool…if only folks would use it.

Nolvadex isn’t going to do anything for suppressing the side-effects, if you wanted that you should go with Arimidex. Why would you be taking it throughout the cycle anyway, unless you started showing signs of gyno? That’s something I’ve never understood about people… why waste good SERMs.

Another couple of things, there would be absolutely no reason for you to bump up your dosage of Nolva beyond 20mg a day for any reason, and the bloat you’d get from taking d-bol alone isn’t THAT bad. A lot of the misconception is that people think they’ll end up looking like the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man or something.

This isn’t to give you a hard time, but it’s obvious you still have quite a bit of research to do before you want to put anything inside your body right now.

I’ve looked around, and found vague answers, but it’s hard to sort through tons of stuff written by people simply saying you must do this, or don’t do this, with really no reasoning behind it. I’ve read before that if you were to take anything, it should be an AI such as Arimidex, rather than a SERM. What I haven’t really been able to find a clear reason behind, is why. I know they work different, but it just seems like a different path for the same goal to me. Then to make it even more difficult in finding a correct answer, I’ve read quite a few times on steroid profiles that certain sides-effects can be prevented by taking a SERM while on cycle for those who are prone to side-effects.

Anyway, I wasn’t really considering it too seriously, I wasn’t planning on it all to begin with, but figured I’d try and find some actual personal experiences to see how it went.

Thanks for the input though, I appreciate it.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
That’s because most people that have done the research know that you don’t take a SERMS during a cycle, but reather take an AI.

If you are concerned about the bloat, you might want to stay away from the d-bol. It’s the water retention that gives you your strength increases.

Research is a powerful tool…if only folks would use it. [/quote]

Well, the reason why I asked about taking it throughout the cycle, was despite the fact that I’ve read you shouldn’t unless you need to use it, or use an AI instead, I’ve also read the complete opposite, that SERMs can be used during the cycle to suppress side-effects. Since Nolvadex is the only thing I have available at the moment, I figured I’d see what people had to say about it.

[quote]Contrl wrote:
Nolvadex isn’t going to do anything for suppressing the side-effects, if you wanted that you should go with Arimidex. Why would you be taking it throughout the cycle anyway, unless you started showing signs of gyno? That’s something I’ve never understood about people… why waste good SERMs.

Another couple of things, there would be absolutely no reason for you to bump up your dosage of Nolva beyond 20mg a day for any reason, and the bloat you’d get from taking d-bol alone isn’t THAT bad. A lot of the misconception is that people think they’ll end up looking like the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man or something.

This isn’t to give you a hard time, but it’s obvious you still have quite a bit of research to do before you want to put anything inside your body right now.[/quote]

You know tom, I had some similar questions earlier and this is the conclusion I reached:

Using a SERM during the cycle is kind of like procrastinating. You’re basically “hiding” elevated estrogen from its receptors while doing nothing to actually lower it. Whereas an AI actually addresses estrogen levels at the source. I think cycles including a SERM throughout were mostly written back when anastrazole was expensive or hard to find.

Also, it’s a good idea to just keep things on hand while you learn about how your body responds to different levels of aromatizables, no need to start using them from the getgo.