I am a 43 year old male who has been feeling like crap for 7-8 years. I will use this to track my journey and ask for assistance.
Age - 43
Weight - 173
BF - around 25%
Height - 5 foot 7 inches
Symptoms - extreme fatigue, dark black circles, skinny fat, loss of motivation, loss of libido, useless boners, depression and loss of hope feelings, eye lids heavy and slam shut all day even when I sleep good long hours, stopped working out due to exhaustion was going to get me killed on my long drives to work, very stressful executive job.
5 years ago I dedicated everything I did to eating right, counting macros, trying 6 day strength training, no results, tried 3 days HiiT and 3 days strength, no results, 5 days cardio, lost any signs of muscle and stayed a skinny fat ass. This took 2 years of my life. Prior to this, getting in shape was cake since I had always been fit. Nothing worked anymore.
3 years ago I decided to go to the doctors thinking maybe I had adrenal fatigue or god knows what. Here are the results from those blood tests (Hormone and Thyroid):
Do you see anything there standing out besides low T that’s alarming? This was my first attempt at using Labs to fix my issues.
After those results, they put me on special diets, supplements etc. Nothing worked and they refused to even discuss TRT. We did genetic testing, blah, blah, blah. Didn’t work. I moved on.
for the last 3 years I kept dedicating my life to working out but stopped eating as perfectly as I was losing hope and just felt like dog shit all the time. I researched and felt I had potentially Adrenal Fatigue and Low T since every one of the symptoms they mention I had. I decided to find a Dr. that specializes in TRT and went to see him. They put me on a bunch of natural supplements for 5 weeks and asked me to come back to see if it’s helping. They also had me do an adrenal saliva spit test and some finger prick blood tests etc. They did explain to me that I would probably need TRT therapy but we will wait on the blood tests. Here are the blood tests from my second appointment:
On 8-7-2018 we met again to discuss the results from my 7-17-2018 Labs. On this very same day we discussed TRT and my options and I chose to do injections. The nurse came in and did my first injection for me of .30ml Test Cyp in the buttocks. The doctor also injected HCG .30ml in the abdomen fat.
He sent me home doing 1 injection per week (Tuesday) of .30ml (200mg/ml) testosterone cypionate in sesame seed oil and HCG .30ml x 3 times weekly (M-W-F). No AI.
I felt incredible migraine headache pain and flu like symptoms but yet, I still felt amazing underneath it all. It was odd, I felt a headache like never before but deep in my body I could feel my life coming back to me. I called them and told them how I feel and they asked me to come back in and do a blood test for Test and Estrogen. I also researched and found that some people get these headaches in the beginning but they go away. This ended up being true for me. Here are the results from that test:
Interestingly after getting the above numbers and symptoms, he pushed on. He told me to up my doses of HCG and Test to .35ml each shot from the original .30ml. He asked me to return 5-6 weeks later for another complete testing. Here are the results:
What jumps out to you about this Lab? This is the Lab that got me TANKED on my next follow up and where I am today. The doctor seen the E2 levels rise and at this point reduced me to the following:
- .30ml Test Cypionate (200mg/ml) 1 x per week (down from .35ml)
- .35ml HCG 2 times per week (down from 3 times per week)
- Put me on Anastrozole, 1MG Slow Release 2 x weekly (Tuesday and Friday after shots)
- Added Supplement called Estrogen Blocker Pro - 2 times daily
Now, I immediately could feel the difference and started feeling like complete horse shit! I wasn’t feeling really great yet anyway but WOW, now I was going downhill fast. TOTAL loss of energy and all symptoms magnified from original symptoms.
Testosterone worked for about 3 days and then each of the remaining 4 days were awful. By the last 2 days, I was full force crash, anxiety, depression, extreme fatigue etc.
He asked me to come in and do another blood test and here are the results:
Now to me, that looks like a complete TANK of my E2? Not to mention, the drop in Test levels are huge from my last numbers. They are basically 100 away from being where I started day 1.
At this point, I feel all the symptoms of hopelessness, extreme fatigue, agitated easily, heavy eye lids, and even some strange tightness/heavy fatigued lungs.
I was thinking I would completely stop taking the Anastrozole. I also went ahead and changed myself to 2 shots per week (.15ml x 2 times weekly). Next time we meet on next Thursday 1-17-2019, tell him I want to stop taking the Anastrozole, divide my Test potentially even EOD if necessary (this is where I hope you all can chime in).
I am losing my mind literally from exhaustion and need your help to make sure I lead my own charge with my doctor. I was thinking focus on getting my E2 back up, Test and Free test up and force myself to workout again. Can I get some good feedback please?
P.S. I have been reading the forums for some time now and trying to filter through all the information which seems to be changing (such as what people though before about E2 levels being between 20-30 versus now I am seeing some new theories on what’s actually good is a nice ratio between E2 and Free T.) I will continue to post everything here and read more posts.