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Dextrose, WMS and Diabetes

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#1

Today something really hit me. I had just finished completing 25 reps of front squats and was absolutely destroyed. I hauled my sorry ass to the lockers and laid down on the bench gasping for air with a towel over my head. About a minute later a guy walks up to me and basically wakes me up to ask if i’m ok. He asks if im diabetic and alright. I reply I am not diabetic, just not used to the volume of training.

It makes me think if somehow from taking dextrose and maltodextrin pre and post workout im screwing up my insulin sensitivity. Now I’m a paranoid person by nature and looked into a dextrose diabetes connection as I started taking it pre and post workout, a good 6 months ago. I read that its fine. I’ve been taking around 40-50g dextrose/maltodextrin 50g whey pre (1 hour prior to lifting) and 50g 30-40g dextrose/maltodextrin post. By taking this am I really impacting my body for the worst?

Changing topics slightly I’ve been reading about waylander taking WMS preworkout, adopting his own little protocol. In lay, whats the difference between WMS and dextrose/maltodextrin in terms of chemistry. Dextrose is a refined sugar? WMS is …? Could dextrose/malto substitute for the WMS using waylanders protocol?

Cheers

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#2

Dextrose is a simple sugar. Malto is basically a simple sugar. I wouldn’t recommend eating those as a staple of your diet over the course of the day… it would be the same as eating table sugar. But as long as your overall diet is good, and you’re not diabetic already, there shouldn’t be problem.

waxy maize starch is supposed to result in lower blood sugar/insulin spikes, and digest easily. It’s a bit more expensive. It’s not sweet tasting at all.

Dextrose/malto is a VERY popular combination (look at Surge Recovery), both for texture-taste purposes, cost purposes, and because the two sugars might have some synergistic effects. But WMS works too. So what you’ve got is fine, but you could try both and see how you like it.

#3

You are NOT fucking up your body. If you are a healthy and active individual you have nothing to worry about.

#4

Feeling like death after a load of simple sugars is better I thought as meant you were sensitive to insulin?

You should feel like death after widowmakes, otherwise you are doing it wrong!

#5

Dont worry about dextrose. Its to much fructose, to much fat, to much energy and to little exercise thatll give you diabetes.

#6

[quote]Mikael LS wrote:
Dont worry about dextrose. Its to much fructose, to much fat, to much energy and to little exercise thatll give you diabetes.[/quote]

Can you not get too much energy from dextrose?

Of course you can. It’s not like it’s a fiber or something.

#7

So, are you telling me, completely out of context, that dextrose contains energy or do you not understand my post? Because, if I were to put your post into context, you would imply that topic starter is going to get diabetes by exercising and eating dextrose which he will not.

#8

[quote]Mikael LS wrote:
So, are you telling me, completely out of context, that dextrose contains energy or do you not understand my post? Because, if I were to put your post into context, you would imply that topic starter is going to get diabetes by exercising and eating dextrose which he will not. [/quote]

No, I was clearly addressing your prior post which stated, “Dont worry about dextrose. Its to much fructose, to much fat, to much energy and to little exercise thatll give you diabetes.”

#9

So you admit that youre post was submitted to tell me that dextrose contains energy? Do you or do you not, in all honesty, think I knew that?