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Devil Found in Detail of Giotto Fresco in Italy


http://news.yahoo.com/devil-found-detail-giotto-fresco-italys-assisi-114509111.html

[quote]ROME (Reuters) - Art restorers have discovered the figure of a devil hidden in the clouds of one of the most famous frescos by Giotto in the Basilica of St Francis in Assisi, church officials said on Saturday.

The devil was hidden in the details of clouds at the top of fresco number 20 in the cycle of the scenes in the life and death of St Francis painted by Giotto in the 13th century.

The discovery was made by Italian art historian Chiara Frugone. It shows a profile of a figure with a hooked nose, a sly smile, and dark horns hidden among the clouds in the panel of the scene depicting the death of St Francis.

The figure is difficult to see from the floor of the basilica but emerges clearly in close-up photography.

Sergio Fusetti, the chief restorer of the basilica, said Giotto probably never wanted the image of the devil to be a main part of the fresco and may have painted it in among the clouds “to have a bit of fun.”

The master may have painted it to spite someone he knew by portraying him as a devil in the painting, Fusetti said on the convent’s website.

The artwork in the basilica in the convent where St Francis is buried was last restored after it was severely damaged by an earthquake in 1997.

(Reporting By Philip Pullella; Editing by Sophie Hares)
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Here’s the zoomed one.
I don’t see anything resembling what they described. The most I can make out is maybe a cheek/orbital/lip area, but I wouldn’t proclaim seeing the devil over this. Seems like they’re really reaching on this one, or I’m just looking at the wrong spot, or maybe I’m just really, really dense.

It’s at the very middle of the pic, in the cloud (a head in profile).

I can kind of see it but its not clear enough to me to say that he specifically tried to paint the devil in there.

I see it.

[quote]roybot wrote:
It’s at the very middle of the pic, in the cloud (a head in profile).[/quote]

lol, I am not good at this art stuff

i suck at art too, was someone able to see it?

I see what you guys are talking about…but claiming that is “the devil” is utter nonsense. It looks like nothing but coincidence like seeing a face in the paint on your walls.

Why would the devil be in the clouds smiling like the villain in comic books?

What you guys are even pointing out seems a little too “cartoonish” to be a representation of a person. People see what they want.

This is a pic I posted before of a wet shoe print I saw last year on the bus and had to take a photo as to me it looks like a smiling Bea Arthur. Some said they see Cesar Romero’s Joker from the old Batman TV show.

I see it. Middle right of the cloud, facing the body

I also took a pic of it with the flash, maybe it looks clearer or not.

Hmm, I didn’t see it until I read Roybot’s tip. Then it looked like the devil’s face has this strained look on it - like he’s taking a shit but constipated. Wonder what that could indicate?

Meh, I think it’s probably coincidence/suggestion, like when people “see” shapes in the clouds. You know, like when someone says a cloud looks like an elephant, and you “realize” they are right? It doesn’t mean the elephant shape is there objectively, that’s just the power of suggestion.

My suspicion is the whole thing is just a publicity stunt to generate some interest in the restored fresco.

[quote]Nards wrote:

I also took a pic of it with the flash, maybe it looks clearer or not.[/quote]

I think it looks more like Jim Carrey as the Grinch.

[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

I also took a pic of it with the flash, maybe it looks clearer or not.[/quote]

I think it looks more like Jim Carrey as the Grinch.[/quote]

I think it looks like Phyllis Diller.

I see it. But then again, I see Jesus on my toasted cheese sandwiches all the time.

…I still don’t see it. Someone circle for me plz

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

I also took a pic of it with the flash, maybe it looks clearer or not.[/quote]

I think it looks more like Jim Carrey as the Grinch.[/quote]

I think it looks like Phyllis Diller.
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Yeah, I see that too, with the big smile.

Hey , I’m just happy everyone I show it to sees a face!


Here’s another one that I just came across
from
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/life/health/the-face-of-pain-queens-doctors-spot-screaming-man-in-scan-of-tumour-133075413.html?domain=fpnews

[quote]overstand wrote:
…I still don’t see it. Someone circle for me plz[/quote]

Fresco face looks like Glenn Close.

[quote]overstand wrote:
…I still don’t see it. Someone circle for me plz[/quote]