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Designing H-Drol Cycle


#1

I am 23 yrs years old, weigh 170lbs at 12% bf. I feel that I have hit a plateau, and did some researched and want to use a pro-hormone to farther continue my progress. Oh btw I have been training since I was 17 so I have 6 yrs of training. I wanted to do an effective cycle that is mild on the liver with mild sides, but with great size, srength gains, and decrease bf%.
I eat about 6 times a day (try to get protein every 2.5-3hrs) and 2500-3500 cals a day (2500 on off days)

What do you think of this cycle

Week 1: 500 mg milk thistle (everyday)
Week 2: 50 mg H-drol (H-drol/ 2 caps), cycle assist (two servings(4 caps each) daily)
Week 3: 50 mog H-drol (H-drol/ 2 caps), cycle assist(two servings(4 caps each) daily)
Week 4: 50 mg H-drol (H-drol/ 2 caps), cycle assist(two servings(4 caps each) daily)
Week 5: 50 mg H-drol (H-drol/ 2 caps), cycle assist(two servings(4 caps each) daily)

PCT
week 6: AI post cycle support (1 serving (4 caps daily),500 mg milk thistle, battle fuel (1 serving ED)
week 7:AI post cycle support (1 serving (4 caps daily),500 mg milk thistle, battle fuel (1 serving ED)
week 8:AI post cycle support (1 serving (4 caps daily),500 mg milk thistle, battle fuel (1 serving ED)
week 9:AI post cycle support (1 serving (4 caps daily),500 mg milk thistle,
week 10: 500 mg milk thistle

As for a SERM I don't know If I should do CLomidex at 2 caps every day

or Novadex at 20/20/10/10/10

Should I add anything else?


#2

Chances are you are at a "plateau" where simply eating more/training more/sleeping more could fix things. 170lbs is no where near your limits (I am assuming an average height). If you don't have the knowledge to push past such a low weight without drugs then chances are you will make below average (compared to other users) gains whilst "on"... and you will be unlikely to keep it after.

Regardless if you really want to run it I have the following criticisms:

Too short - takes a while to "kick in" - anything up to about 4 weeks.
Too low a dose - reports/reviews suggest anything below 75mg ED is nigh upon pointless.
Need larger SERM dose. Nolva seems preferred here.

What I would run as a BASE:

Week 0: Cycle assist max dose
Week 1: H-drol 75-100mg, Cycle assist max dose
Week 2: H-drol 75-100mg, Cycle assist max dose
Week 3: H-drol 75-100mg, Cycle assist max dose
Week 4: H-drol 75-100mg, Cycle assist max dose
Week 5: H-drol 75-100mg, Cycle assist max dose
Week 6: Nolvadex 40mg, Cycle assist max dose
Week 7: Nolvadex 40mg, Milk thistle/Generic liver support supp
Week 8: Nolvadex 20mg, Milk thistle/Generic liver support supp
Week 9: Nolvadex 20mg, Milk thistle/Generic liver support supp
Week 10: Milk thistle/Generic liver support supp

Optional to add a natural test booster during PCT... preferably something tribulus based. Either add this in at the start and run it for 4-6 weeks... or start it 2 weeks into PCT and run for about 4 weeks. Adding it in straight away would be nigh upon pointless beyond perhaps raising libido.

You may wish to consider adding some Taurine (to prevent calf/lower back pumps which can be crippling on some compounds), using a topical DHT blocker or something to prevent hair loss, plenty of EFA's to maintain healthy lipids, etc.

Also some criticise h-drol for taking too long to "kick in". Westclock (Or Westlock... I forget the spelling) on this site suggests using a Havoc kick start @ 30-40mg for 4 weeks. Pheraplex is another option of course.

But hey these are just the recommendations that get thrown around this steroid forum - make up your own mind!

EDIT: That is the kick start would be run for weeks 1/2/3/4