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Dehydration

On Monday I got the stomach flu and couldn’t hold anything down for the past 2 days. Even drinking water made my stomach ache and ensured a quick trip to the bathroom. Either way despite my best efforts I became dehydrated. Began feeling weak and tired and had trouble functioning.

Anyways last night around 1am I wake up and my shoulder was KILLING me. I couldn’t go back to sleep even after taking asprin. I’ve been trying to figure out what the hell happened to my arm and I googled dehydration symptoms and see achy joints is on there. I thought maybe I had somehow managed to straing my dealt or something in the middle of the night. Has anyone ever been dehydrated to the point where your joints begin to ache?

If so how severely does it ache, cause my delt was aching pretty bad?? Now that my stomach is feeling better I’ve been hydrating, but I’m not sure if being dehydrated is what is causing my shoulder pain or if maybe I should take another week off training before working my shoulder again so I don’t “injure” it again.

If it was in fact the flu, joint/muscle pains are a pretty common presentation.

ya not sure exactly what it was, but I was crapping like it was the thing to do, was very tired, naucious, and felt light headed when walking for too long. I’ve had body aches before but nothing that ever woke me up and kept me up because of the pain.

Ironically, the one and only time I’ve gotten the flu was the one and only year I got the flu vaccine, haha.
That sounds about right based on what I remember about my symptoms…but you probably should’ve seen a doc. If you are that badly dehydrated, an IV drip of just saline can work wonders in your recovery.

I got the stomach bug about a week ago. I vomited about 15 times and couldnt stop shitting. Needless to say, I was extremely dehydrated. Hugging the toilet puking your guts out and having the worst cramp of your life in your calves is the worst feeling.

I went to the ER for mine. 3 bags of IV fluid and I was good to go…

Damn I should’ve gone to the ER. My girl kept telling me to but I figured they’d just tell me to drink plenty of liquids. Well you live you learn, i guess i’ll do a light work out tomorrow and see how my shoulders feel. Thanks for the insight

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I got the stomach bug about a week ago. I vomited about 15 times and couldnt stop shitting. Needless to say, I was extremely dehydrated. Hugging the toilet puking your guts out and having the worst cramp of your life in your calves is the worst feeling.

I went to the ER for mine. 3 bags of IV fluid and I was good to go…[/quote]

Same exact thing happened to me maybe three weeks ago. Nothing would stay down. If I didn’t vomit it up, I shat it out. Called myself an ambulance because my roommates don’t drive, and my blood pressure was in my boots to the point I couldn’t stand long enough to walk to where a taxi could pick me up. A bunch of IV Gravol and three litres of saline later, and I was…mostly better. My ass was raw and I smelled completely awful. It wasn’t a good day.

I’ve only ever been that sick once and my body KILLED me for about a week. I went to the ER and I was so dehydrated they could barely get blood. 2 bags of saline made all the difference in the world, but I was still sore for a few days. Combo of dehydration and straining while dehydrated to puke/dry heave.

Glad I posted this, my arm is feeling mostly better now, but I’ve never been dehydrated before so maybe it is best I don’t train for another week and let myself fully recover. Good lookin out

There’s a bug that goes around and its very contagious. Pretty much if you know someone who has it, you’ll get it. If I get it, I shit like a fire hose for at least a day. The first 12 hours are awful with the dizziness and stomach cramps.

First time I ever had it, was when I was in my last year of college. I had a take home final exam to do and I had to call the prof and ask for an extension. I ended up going to the ER and they told me I was dehydrated, gave me an IV of fluids and sent me home. I was much better after going to the ER.

When dehydrated drinking water isn’t always enough, especially if you have been shitting / vomiting a lot. Both can cause the loss of electrolytes (most important one is Na+), which is a cause of dehydration due to osmolarity.

Besides drinking water you should also “eat” some salt (NaCl --> replenish Na+). Don’t take too much of it, because an excess is as bad as a deficiency.
The stuff they give you in ER (to fix hypovolemia) is usually 0,9% NaCl or 5% glucose solution intravenously.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor, so take this with a grain of salt.

[quote]Xav wrote:
When dehydrated drinking water isn’t always enough, especially if you have been shitting / vomiting a lot. Both can cause the loss of electrolytes (most important one is Na+), which is a cause of dehydration due to osmolarity.

Besides drinking water you should also “eat” some salt (NaCl --> replenish Na+). Don’t take too much of it, because an excess is as bad as a deficiency.
The stuff they give you in ER (to fix hypovolemia) is usually 0,9% NaCl or 5% glucose solution intravenously.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor, so take this with a grain of salt.[/quote]

I play a doctor on tv (kidding). Pedialite, yea the kids stuff, or Gatorade is way better than plain water in this situation.

But again, I can’t push this enough, if your symptoms are that bad, definitely go see a doc.

the problem was that you tried to take asprin and not curcummin.

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Glad I posted this, my arm is feeling mostly better now, but I’ve never been dehydrated before so maybe it is best I don’t train for another week and let myself fully recover. Good lookin out[/quote]

I personally think that if you can physically train, then you might as well.

What’s the worst that can happen if you start training when you are ill/ dehydrated, the probability of you dying or feeling worse after training is very small.

If anything, I can only see training as making you feel better. I always feel better when I lift weights, whether I’m ill, feeling lazy or feeling fantastic, guarenteed, when I lift weights, I feel better.

I should point out at this stage that you know your body better than anyone else and that if you think training will make you feel worse/ cause injury/ cause your death then it’s pretty safe to say that you should rest it up. It’s your call.

[quote]Chewwy wrote:

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Glad I posted this, my arm is feeling mostly better now, but I’ve never been dehydrated before so maybe it is best I don’t train for another week and let myself fully recover. Good lookin out[/quote]

I personally think that if you can physically train, then you might as well.

What’s the worst that can happen if you start training when you are ill/ dehydrated, the probability of you dying or feeling worse after training is very small.

If anything, I can only see training as making you feel better. I always feel better when I lift weights, whether I’m ill, feeling lazy or feeling fantastic, guarenteed, when I lift weights, I feel better.

I should point out at this stage that you know your body better than anyone else and that if you think training will make you feel worse/ cause injury/ cause your death then it’s pretty safe to say that you should rest it up. It’s your call.[/quote]

You do realize that dehydration can kill you, right?

[quote]ron22 wrote:

[quote]Chewwy wrote:

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Glad I posted this, my arm is feeling mostly better now, but I’ve never been dehydrated before so maybe it is best I don’t train for another week and let myself fully recover. Good lookin out[/quote]

I personally think that if you can physically train, then you might as well.

What’s the worst that can happen if you start training when you are ill/ dehydrated, the probability of you dying or feeling worse after training is very small.

If anything, I can only see training as making you feel better. I always feel better when I lift weights, whether I’m ill, feeling lazy or feeling fantastic, guarenteed, when I lift weights, I feel better.

I should point out at this stage that you know your body better than anyone else and that if you think training will make you feel worse/ cause injury/ cause your death then it’s pretty safe to say that you should rest it up. It’s your call.[/quote]

You do realize that dehydration can kill you, right?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure you’re a medical student or some shizzle (no disrespect intended if I am wrong) so you clearly know more than me about the effects of dehydration (and pretty much everything else for that matter). I am also not trying to start arguments, and the rest of this text should be read from the point of me asking a genuine question, as opposed to arguing with someone who is clearly more knowledgeable than myself.

Surely dehydration is not going to outright kill you instantly with no symptoms other than muscle cramps (which are getting better by the ops own admission). I’d assume you’d suffer from dizziness, seizures & fainting, or at least more than just muscle cramps long before you die.

The fact the OP is asking the question must show that he is fine to lift some weights, if you were suffering from dehydration that was severe enough to kill you, would you really need to ask the question, surely you’d be in such a poor state of health that the thought of exercise wouldn’t even cross your mind.

[quote]Chewwy wrote:

[quote]ron22 wrote:

[quote]Chewwy wrote:

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Glad I posted this, my arm is feeling mostly better now, but I’ve never been dehydrated before so maybe it is best I don’t train for another week and let myself fully recover. Good lookin out[/quote]

I personally think that if you can physically train, then you might as well.

What’s the worst that can happen if you start training when you are ill/ dehydrated, the probability of you dying or feeling worse after training is very small.

If anything, I can only see training as making you feel better. I always feel better when I lift weights, whether I’m ill, feeling lazy or feeling fantastic, guarenteed, when I lift weights, I feel better.

I should point out at this stage that you know your body better than anyone else and that if you think training will make you feel worse/ cause injury/ cause your death then it’s pretty safe to say that you should rest it up. It’s your call.[/quote]

You do realize that dehydration can kill you, right?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure you’re a medical student or some shizzle (no disrespect intended if I am wrong) so you clearly know more than me about the effects of dehydration (and pretty much everything else for that matter). I am also not trying to start arguments, and the rest of this text should be read from the point of me asking a genuine question, as opposed to arguing with someone who is clearly more knowledgeable than myself.

Surely dehydration is not going to outright kill you instantly with no symptoms other than muscle cramps (which are getting better by the ops own admission). I’d assume you’d suffer from dizziness, seizures & fainting, or at least more than just muscle cramps long before you die.

The fact the OP is asking the question must show that he is fine to lift some weights, if you were suffering from dehydration that was severe enough to kill you, would you really need to ask the question, surely you’d be in such a poor state of health that the thought of exercise wouldn’t even cross your mind.[/quote]

Haha, I am a medical student and I never claimed I know everything (I have alot to learn) and my statement wasn’t meant as an argument either. I just wanted to make sure the OP realized that working out while dehydrated, although you can do it, is not something you really should do. I would probably not advocate lifting weights if you are in that situation only because you can do serious damage even if you don’t die. And not just biochemically…it’s easy enough to hurt yourself physically with weights when you are at your peak, so it would be even easier to hurt yourself while dehydrated in the gym. Also, while you are totally correct on the symptoms, some people will experience it in a drastically different timeline where death could occur sooner rather than later. So, no argument and I do agree with you!

[quote]Ronsauce wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I got the stomach bug about a week ago. I vomited about 15 times and couldnt stop shitting. Needless to say, I was extremely dehydrated. Hugging the toilet puking your guts out and having the worst cramp of your life in your calves is the worst feeling.

I went to the ER for mine. 3 bags of IV fluid and I was good to go…[/quote]

Same exact thing happened to me maybe three weeks ago. Nothing would stay down. If I didn’t vomit it up, I shat it out. Called myself an ambulance because my roommates don’t drive, and my blood pressure was in my boots to the point I couldn’t stand long enough to walk to where a taxi could pick me up. A bunch of IV Gravol and three litres of saline later, and I was…mostly better. My ass was raw and I smelled completely awful. It wasn’t a good day.[/quote]

All I had with me was my motorcycle, but being unable to stand and see properly, I opted to not go that route. Luckily, my friend was awake at 4am or whatever and came to help me. Took a bunch of stabs before she finally got the IV set right.

In regards to training- Lifting weights while you body is still recovering is working against yourself. Your body is already trying to repair itself, you are going to break it back down. A cold I will work through, but if it is bad enough to put me down for a little bit, it is ok to take a break from the gym to get better.

Chewwy you are correct I do know my body better than anyone. However the reason I stated that I think I’ll refrain from training for another week was becasue i have never been dehydrated before. Even thru bootcamp and boxing and all the other physical activities I’ve done, I have never been dehydrated to the point where I began feeling symptoms like I was. Because I’ve never experienced this before I will refrain from training because how do I know how hard I can push myself in this circumstance if I’ve never experienced it before? I’d rather rest and be on the safe side then push myself and injur myself.

Aren’t muscles 75% water anyways, so if I’m dehydrated I doubt any hypertrophy training will be very effective anyways.