[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
I’ve seen the opinion on deca take a nose dive in the last 6 months or so. You’ll probably find it hard to find a positive write-up on deca in that period. I know Bill Roberts has stated his view that it is to be avoided unless you have stock you really want to use or need the joint pain easing benefit. Brook has gone from a huge proponent to qualifying his recommendation of the compound with the imperative of using cabergloine to avoid libido sides. Many will say substitute with tren which has its own sides, but does not elevate prolactin the way deca does provided you have bona fide tren and not a mix of deca and test or some other counterfiet as tren powder costs significantly more and many suppliers substitute it.[/quote]
By the way, it seems to be being said more and more that Deca “does” cause high prolactin and that this is the cause of the problems.
While it can, the question of whether it is true as a general statement requires not just noticing problem cases where they may have been a blood test verifying elevated prolactin levels – which test wouldn’t have been done if not for the problems – but a set of tests on a group of users, compared to results from those using a different androgen.
That would be hard to acquire oneself, as who is going to take a prolactin test when they have no problem, or are using a steroid they think can’t cause that?
However there is at least one study that in the course of things happened to measure just that: many measurements (forget what else) for athletes using either Deca or a testosterone ester.
Some Deca users had elevated prolactin, but not the majority. Testosterone users had it at an approximately similar rate. Some had completely normal prolactin; ditto was true for testosterone.
Now I am not saying that prolactin has nothing to do with it because I also think it does.
But it is not the case that Deca consistently gives high prolactin. The study in question – sorry, I have absolutely no idea of what journal it was in – showed that quite often prolactin remains normal with Deca.
So I also don’t think that prolactin is the whole story.