I peeled my distal bicep tendon clean off my forearm and had it surgically reattached. Before I got the cast off I drilled two small holes in it and began daily pinning 100mcg of IGF-1 near the repair site. Four weeks on, four off.
I wanted to heal ASAP. I’ve been out of all supports for a while now and have started light training. Some of my friends in the power lifting community have told me I should start using deca as well for the tendon. Of course with deca I need to supplement with test as well.
What I can’t find out is how little you can do without it being pointless for therapy. I’m not trying to grow on it, just heal. Yeah it sounds stupid, but It’s always been my goal to see how far I can get without gear before I start using, and so far I’m still growing. Would something as low as 75mg/125mg for ten weeks before tapering/pct beneficial, or is what I’m trying to accomplish not going to come without a normal cycle?
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Do you not find competing as a natural morally wrong when you’ve used steroids, fat-burners and are planning on using peptides? [/quote]
Hold on brosghetti and meatballs, it ain’t cheeting if you don’t get caught, ya dig?
Alright let me throw an analogy at you: county fair… fattest pig competition… rules say NO pork can be fed to the pigs only grain and grass and shit etc… but you feed that pig some good fucking pig right and you win the competition dude its all fair.
Also with peptides, those are natty. Plain and simple because check this, nobody says aspartic acid is a steroid yet it increases you test levels right because it just makes your balls make more and peptides do the same thing sorta so you get what I’m sayin?
anyway, get this puritan shit off my board ya dig?
Shutting off your HPTA by running 125mg of DECA for ten weeks to repair a tendon when deca does not even aid in repairing tendons sounds absolutely fucking retarded. Taking deca without using test sounds retarded. Do a full blown cycle instead anf grow some muscle. Planning on doing natty shows and using anabolics in the off season makes you a cheat, but we all have our own morals.
You want your tendon reparied go on some fucking GH and stop competing as a natty.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Do you not find competing as a natural morally wrong when you’ve used steroids, fat-burners and are planning on using peptides? [/quote]
Hold on brosghetti and meatballs, it ain’t cheeting if you don’t get caught, ya dig?
Alright let me throw an analogy at you: county fair… fattest pig competition… rules say NO pork can be fed to the pigs only grain and grass and shit etc… but you feed that pig some good fucking pig right and you win the competition dude its all fair.
Also with peptides, those are natty. Plain and simple because check this, nobody says aspartic acid is a steroid yet it increases you test levels right because it just makes your balls make more and peptides do the same thing sorta so you get what I’m sayin?
anyway, get this puritan shit off my board ya dig?[/quote]
Go fuck yourself stuntman cuntrich
Am I a natty when I am crusin’ and not blastin’? Answer that you cunt!
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Do you not find competing as a natural morally wrong when you’ve used steroids, fat-burners and are planning on using peptides?[/quote]
I compete natty. I do not compete in natural shows. So no, I wouldn’t feel too bad about it. I’m just doing low level shows to gain experience for now. I still haven’t decided if I will settle for impressive or go for freak when I step up to the bigger shows.
Since I’ve now used IGF-1 it could be wrong. But even though it is staying right at the injury site (not lr3) my arm is still shrinking. If i was competing in natural shows, I’d be the worst cheater ever!
[quote]DarkStallion wrote:
Shutting off your HPTA by running 125mg of DECA for ten weeks to repair a tendon when deca does not even aid in repairing tendons sounds absolutely fucking retarded. Taking deca without using test sounds retarded.[/quote]
My injury is primarily a bone injury where the tendon has been reinserted into a hole that has been drilled into the radius. The mod’s just changed the title on my thread to make it less wordy I suppose. My 75/125 was proposed as 75Deca/125Test. Seeing as I mentioned I understood the need for test in the previous paragraph, I didn’t feel it was required to specify. My apologies if it was needed.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Do you not find competing as a natural morally wrong when you’ve used steroids, fat-burners and are planning on using peptides? [/quote]
Hold on brosghetti and meatballs, it ain’t cheeting if you don’t get caught, ya dig?
Alright let me throw an analogy at you: county fair… fattest pig competition… rules say NO pork can be fed to the pigs only grain and grass and shit etc… but you feed that pig some good fucking pig right and you win the competition dude its all fair.
Also with peptides, those are natty. Plain and simple because check this, nobody says aspartic acid is a steroid yet it increases you test levels right because it just makes your balls make more and peptides do the same thing sorta so you get what I’m sayin?
anyway, get this puritan shit off my board ya dig?[/quote]
Go fuck yourself stuntman cuntrich
Am I a natty when I am crusin’ and not blastin’? Answer that you cunt![/quote]
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Do you not find competing as a natural morally wrong when you’ve used steroids, fat-burners and are planning on using peptides? [/quote]
Hold on brosghetti and meatballs, it ain’t cheeting if you don’t get caught, ya dig?
Alright let me throw an analogy at you: county fair… fattest pig competition… rules say NO pork can be fed to the pigs only grain and grass and shit etc… but you feed that pig some good fucking pig right and you win the competition dude its all fair.
Also with peptides, those are natty. Plain and simple because check this, nobody says aspartic acid is a steroid yet it increases you test levels right because it just makes your balls make more and peptides do the same thing sorta so you get what I’m sayin?
anyway, get this puritan shit off my board ya dig?[/quote]
Go fuck yourself stuntman cuntrich
Am I a natty when I am crusin’ and not blastin’? Answer that you cunt![/quote]
u mad?
because u sure sound mad
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I am mad, especially when a racist like Stuntman Cunt is posting on the boards.
I suggest using npp not deca, and ive had good success with less than 30 mg eod of npp.
boards say nandrolone decanoate stays detectable in the urine for 18 months, npp is one year, however I have to be skeptical of that. Ive seen some studies on the net on horses that put max detection at 5 months for npp, and I think thats more realistic in athletes with low bodyfat percentages.
peptides are a shot in the dark don’t count on them because sometimes they work and sometimes they don’t. You never know whats actually in that white powder it seems.
Nandrolone is the real deal, it will take away the pain, which will allow you to better rehab and train. If you can releave the inflamation you will heal faster, and that is what nandrolone does really nicely.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Anyway OP, suggest you try MGF. Several respected trialers report near-instant healing of injuries on that stuff. Probably because damaged tissues express MGF receptors most readily.
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MGF hey? Since I read your post, I’ve browsed this site for more info and almost all I saw on MGF was from 2006 and 2007. Nothing recent. Weird. And some posts talk about injetcing locally, others say it doesn’t matter. Conflicting info on storing.Damn peptides can be confusing compared to AAS.
GHRP2 wiped me out so I have turned to Ipamorelin and so far so good. Slight improvement in some tendons in 7 days. Still too early to tell if it’ll work out but at least it doesn’t make feel super shitty like GHRP2 did. I’ve never tried GHRP6 but as I don’t want the hunger I don’t think I will either.
I’ve never tried NPP either but the one time I used Deca I didn’t feel any “tendon improvement” and was VERY lethargic. I’ll never use Deca again that’s for sure. NPP might be worth a try.
[quote]DarkStallion wrote:
Shutting off your HPTA by running 125mg of DECA for ten weeks to repair a tendon when deca does not even aid in repairing tendons sounds absolutely fucking retarded. Taking deca without using test sounds retarded. Do a full blown cycle instead anf grow some muscle. Planning on doing natty shows and using anabolics in the off season makes you a cheat, but we all have our own morals.
You want your tendon reparied go on some fucking GH and stop competing as a natty.[/quote]
^^^^came to say this. and also, correct me if i’m wrong but doesn’t deca just sort of “mask” pain in the joints and such? don’t remember hearing anything about it actually promoting recovery.
i don’t know whether this is here-say or not, but rapid muscle growth not giving tendons/ligaments time to catch up can result in muscle tears i believe. wouldnt going on cycle after having your tendon reattached be like the worst thing you can do?
Bushido, I read up on the MGF and started using that as well.
Right after surgery I was doing 100mcg IGF-1 DES locally every morning for 4 weeks.
Stopped for 4 weeks to let the receptors recover, then therapy began. I started again with 75mcg IGF-1 DES locally every morning and 100mcg MGF PEG locally every 3 days following therapy. Again for 4 weeks.
It worked amazing. Doc was blown away with how fast everything recovered and how quickly I returned to training. I only did two therapy sessions before they told me I didn’t need to come back!
The following pics show day after tear followed by 2 weeks, 6 weeks, and 8 weeks post operation.