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Well, Jason, if 48 hours means anything (and it may not) then you are the second person to my knowledge to report a libido problem with Nandrosol. It’s still obviously rare.

As to any statement by Brock that nor-4-AD was probably as progestagenic as nandrolone, that makes zero sense (no offense intended Brock, but that’s just how it is.) There is zero evidence that nor-4-AD has any progestagenic activity whatsoever, or indeed that any diol whatsoever does.

The argument that the patent says nor-4-AD
is 85% “the strength” of nandrolone refers ONLY to its anabolic properties and indicates nothing at all about its “strength” with regard to any other side effects. For example, say that morphine is X times “stronger” than aspirin in killing pain. Does that mean that it is also X times “stronger” in causing bleeding in the GI tract? No. And is aspirin only X
times “weaker” than morphine in inducing constipation, or respiratory depression? No.
Different drugs can have the same therapeutic effect but completely different side effects.

But I’m glad you like the stuff despite the “problem” you’ve had for 48 hours!

This morning, upon awakening, I did have an erection, but not the libido that usually accompanies it. So it has definitely killed my libido. Perhaps I’m just sensitive to the effects of the nortestosterone that is spinning off from the Nordiol. Just out of curiosity, why does nortestosterone - an androgen - cause this “problem”? If you could explain the phenomenon in laymen’s terms, and if it wouldn’t be too much trouble, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

I don’t believe anyone has proved the matter, Jason, but my hypothesis is that nandrolone (nortestosterone) which is known to be unusual among androgenic steroids in being progestagenic, impairs libido at higher doses via the progestagenic activity.

However, while it’s proven that progestagenic activity does exist for this androgen, it’s not proven that this is the cause of the reduced libido. The only way to prove it would be to have a pure anti-progestin, something that did nothing but block the progesterone receptor, and if this fixed the problem, you’d have your proof. Unfortunately no such compound exists.
(The fact that Winstrol can cure this problem, and Winstrol is at least somewhat antiprogestagenic, does not prove the matter because Winstrol has other activities, in fact improves libido regardless of whether there is a progestagenic activity issue, and it could be such an activity, not antiprogestagenic activity, that effects the cure.)

So blaming it on progestagenic activity is only a hypothesis.

Bill, When I take a max dose of Nor- diol, my muscles feel as if they’re numbed to the pain of lactic acid I guess, during the workout. Also, I used to have tendonitits where the forearm meets the biceps- but when taking the max dosage of Nor-diol, it totally goes away. I also notice a limp noodle about 2 weeks into it- but, I still wanna get laid. My theory is that nor- diol, and whatver it metabolizes into may have an “pain reliever, or nerve damping, or numbing like ibuprofen”. Is this at all possible? And hey, I’ll take a few eeks of limp noodle for that awesome feeling in the gym. It’ll keep my head on to other tasks like work as well :slight_smile:

Thanks for your input, Bill.

Strass, I don’t know. The argument is not persuasive to me but I cannot say there is proof it is not so, either.

I became addicted to GBL last year- I ordered a big 5 gallon bucket of the stuff thru the internet because it was about to become illegal. Well, once I got all this GBL, I started taking it ALL the time. It DOES turn you into a horny-devil. I wanted to have sex ALL the time, and I did; either with myself or with my partner. After a couple of months of this activity, my dick was completely worn out. But I was still horny and I could still cum even if I wasn’t hard- it was a real trip. Now, my dick doesn’t get nearly as hard as it used to before my GBL indulgencies. Anyone have a similar experience. Would Viagra be cure-all for my problem? I tried Yohimbe (TwinLab’s Yohimbe Fuel). But it just takes too long for it to take effect, and I always feel sort of sick from it… you know, chills, cold and clammy skin, and an upset stomach. Well, I’m still addicted to the GBL, but I cut my usage way down… trying to wean myself off of it. It’s hard going, however. I became thoughly addicted on the “GBL High”!

Finasol made with Norandso knocked my dick in the dirt after about three day’s,so I weaned it down with Androsol and it fixed the problem,could it have been because of my age (44)?

Phil please change your handle. Phil is already taken and I sure wouldn’t want readers to get the impression that I was a drug addict. Thanks.