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Deadlift Critique

I know that my hips are rising too fast and I seem to jerk at the bottom of the pull but I would really appreciate any comments you all have.

Thanks,
Will

Nice work sure bro looks like you had plenty in the tank as well. I wouldnt say your hips rise to fast they are never really that low and the little rise they have is late in the pull.

Yes that was pretty much all low back and might try and get hips a bit lower and the get your ass under you but In the end you got the work done a max pull many time aint going to be perty

Phill

Pretty friggin good. I’d angle toes out a bit more. This will help you get the hips forward at the top.

[quote]Phill wrote:
Nice work sure bro looks like you had plenty in the tank as well. I wouldnt say your hips rise to fast they are never really that low and the little rise they have is late in the pull.

Yes that was pretty much all low back and might try and get hips a bit lower and the get your ass under you but In the end you got the work done a max pull many time aint going to be perty

Phill [/quote]

Thanks Phill. I see what you are saying about the hips not being low in the first place. I think I need to work hamstring flexibility so I can get deeper in the start position.

How is the recovery going?

[quote]dead_lifter5000 wrote:
Pretty friggin good. I’d angle toes out a bit more. This will help you get the hips forward at the top. [/quote]

Thanks, I’ll try that next time I am in the gym.

[quote]Will Tagye wrote:
Phill wrote:
Nice work sure bro looks like you had plenty in the tank as well. I wouldnt say your hips rise to fast they are never really that low and the little rise they have is late in the pull.

Yes that was pretty much all low back and might try and get hips a bit lower and the get your ass under you but In the end you got the work done a max pull many time aint going to be perty

Phill

Thanks Phill. I see what you are saying about the hips not being low in the first place. I think I need to work hamstring flexibility so I can get deeper in the start position.

How is the recovery going?

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Recovery going OK competed last weekend nothing stellar but was middle of the pack. Felt good to get rolling lots to build from and arm still has long way to go.

Thanks for asking
Phill

[quote]Will Tagye wrote:
Phill wrote:
Nice work sure bro looks like you had plenty in the tank as well. I wouldnt say your hips rise to fast they are never really that low and the little rise they have is late in the pull.

Yes that was pretty much all low back and might try and get hips a bit lower and the get your ass under you but In the end you got the work done a max pull many time aint going to be perty

Phill

Thanks Phill. I see what you are saying about the hips not being low in the first place. I think I need to work hamstring flexibility so I can get deeper in the start position.
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Do you feel like you are tight in the bottom position? I spent a fair amount of time trying not to let my hips rise so quickly, but ultimately that’s how I pull.

Some of us are stronger in the back, others in the glutes/hammies. If you look at many of the top DL’ers in the world, their max attempts look more like SLDL’s than what textbooks would have you believe a deadlift should look like.

If you can get you hips lower to start, then great, but don’t try to squat the bar up, IMO.

[quote]Will Tagye wrote:
dead_lifter5000 wrote:
Pretty friggin good. I’d angle toes out a bit more. This will help you get the hips forward at the top.

Thanks, I’ll try that next time I am in the gym.

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Actually, its generally easier to push the hips through at lockout when the toes are pointed forward.

Are you against wearing a belt? It doesn’t look like your gut is filled with air and you are pushing your abs out as hard as possible. Wearing a belt a little loose can teach you how to push out hard with your abs. This will help build up a lot of pressure and strength off the floor when your abs are pushed out and smashed against your upper thighs.

[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
Will Tagye wrote:
dead_lifter5000 wrote:
Pretty friggin good. I’d angle toes out a bit more. This will help you get the hips forward at the top.

Thanks, I’ll try that next time I am in the gym.

Actually, its generally easier to push the hips through at lockout when the toes are pointed forward.

Are you against wearing a belt? It doesn’t look like your gut is filled with air and you are pushing your abs out as hard as possible. Wearing a belt a little loose can teach you how to push out hard with your abs. This will help build up a lot of pressure and strength off the floor when your abs are pushed out and smashed against your upper thighs.

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Nope. Having your toes pointing straight ahead keeps your hips tighter. The same concept applies to squatting. Toes forward means tighter hips and power out of the hole (squat), or floor (deadlift). Some people blast off the floor but slow down as they near the top. This is often caused by tight hips. Turning the feet out a tad allows the person to 1.) get down to the bar 2.) “pull through” at the top.

Good to hear. Keep us up to speed on your recovery!

[quote]Phill wrote:
Will Tagye wrote:
Phill wrote:
Nice work sure bro looks like you had plenty in the tank as well. I wouldnt say your hips rise to fast they are never really that low and the little rise they have is late in the pull.

Yes that was pretty much all low back and might try and get hips a bit lower and the get your ass under you but In the end you got the work done a max pull many time aint going to be perty

Phill

Thanks Phill. I see what you are saying about the hips not being low in the first place. I think I need to work hamstring flexibility so I can get deeper in the start position.

How is the recovery going?

Recovery going OK competed last weekend nothing stellar but was middle of the pack. Felt good to get rolling lots to build from and arm still has long way to go.

Thanks for asking
Phill

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I hear what you are saying, but I do feel a bit tight in the bottom. I could probably use a bit more depth but no where near squatting the lift. Thanks for the reply.

[quote]Modi wrote:
Will Tagye wrote:
Phill wrote:
Nice work sure bro looks like you had plenty in the tank as well. I wouldnt say your hips rise to fast they are never really that low and the little rise they have is late in the pull.

Yes that was pretty much all low back and might try and get hips a bit lower and the get your ass under you but In the end you got the work done a max pull many time aint going to be perty

Phill

Thanks Phill. I see what you are saying about the hips not being low in the first place. I think I need to work hamstring flexibility so I can get deeper in the start position.

Do you feel like you are tight in the bottom position? I spent a fair amount of time trying not to let my hips rise so quickly, but ultimately that’s how I pull.

Some of us are stronger in the back, others in the glutes/hammies. If you look at many of the top DL’ers in the world, their max attempts look more like SLDL’s than what textbooks would have you believe a deadlift should look like.

If you can get you hips lower to start, then great, but don’t try to squat the bar up, IMO.
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Great point! I always try to remind people about pushing their abs out and I could have easily forgotten myself. I have nothing against belts, I just don’t have one. I think I may invest since many people wear them in highland games as well. thanks for the input.

[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
Will Tagye wrote:
dead_lifter5000 wrote:
Pretty friggin good. I’d angle toes out a bit more. This will help you get the hips forward at the top.

Thanks, I’ll try that next time I am in the gym.

Actually, its generally easier to push the hips through at lockout when the toes are pointed forward.

Are you against wearing a belt? It doesn’t look like your gut is filled with air and you are pushing your abs out as hard as possible. Wearing a belt a little loose can teach you how to push out hard with your abs. This will help build up a lot of pressure and strength off the floor when your abs are pushed out and smashed against your upper thighs.

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[quote]dead_lifter5000 wrote:

Nope. Having your toes pointing straight ahead keeps your hips tighter. The same concept applies to squatting. Toes forward means tighter hips and power out of the hole (squat), or floor (deadlift). Some people blast off the floor but slow down as they near the top. This is often caused by tight hips. Turning the feet out a tad allows the person to 1.) get down to the bar 2.) “pull through” at the top. [/quote]

Well I have experienced the opposite. Pointing the toes more forward allows me to drive my hips through harder after the bar clears the knees to lockout the pull. But a lot of it comes down to comfort, as i switch up little shit often just to experiment. Lately i’ve been pulling with my feet flared out.

But arguing about it doesn’t really matter, because if something makes me stronger i will do it, regardless of what someone else says.

[quote]Modi wrote:

Do you feel like you are tight in the bottom position? I spent a fair amount of time trying not to let my hips rise so quickly, but ultimately that’s how I pull.

Some of us are stronger in the back, others in the glutes/hammies. If you look at many of the top DL’ers in the world, their max attempts look more like SLDL’s than what textbooks would have you believe a deadlift should look like.

If you can get you hips lower to start, then great, but don’t try to squat the bar up, IMO.
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Great post and I agree I get 90% of my pull from low back and ass

Phill