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Deadlift and DB rows form critique

Dead lift. This is my 3rd set of 5, with straps. They helped a ton. 255. I think if I’d had a better night I could have finished the last rep too. Might as well go to 1:20

DB rows, 1st set of 8:

This workout really drove home the importance of feeling decent and getting sleep. Holy hell. WOund up calling in to work today after retching all over the place in the shower this morning…slept another 3-4 hours and figured I’d get my workout in as I felt nearly human upon waking up. Didn’t go worth a damn but at least I got one in?

I hope other people can help you more on this than I can because I’m not quite as qualified, but all I know is that the dumbbell row you are doing will emphasize your rear delts much more than the lats; I think people even sometimes just call that a Rear-Delt Row(Which is a great compound for them and your back too in general!)

Normally I see people with Dumbbell Rows, and they pull the dumbbell farther back and then into their back if that makes sense. Not just going straight up so high on your back like you are toward your rear delts, but more toward the middle and pulling all the way up into an arc-like position almost, so you hit your lats and whatnot better.

Sorry if my explanation sucks :frowning: . Hope other people can give you better info for the DB ROws :smiley:

Get some standard DB handles and dimes. Just not enough clearance when using oly, especially 25’s and up. You’re pulling with your arm too much because you have to pull so high to not bash yourself with the plates.

I built a set of handles from iron pipe, duct tape (to make a tight fit), and PVC pipe. Makes a thick, slick (if you don’t use chalk) handle that will work the hell out of your grip. If you don’t want it slick, just hit it with some sandpaper or something.

Go garage salin’ for the plates.

So should I be pulling more towards my hip, or more more towards my shoulder (for where the weight should end up)?

I was kind of trying to mimic this:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/DBBentOverRow.html

I have more 10s; I can see if clearance works with those. I really don’t want more equipment than I need–space is a major concern and more equipment clutters things so I want to try the less equipment option first.

I lift again friday, I’ll drop a lot of the weight and try do them more towards my hip if that’sw what I need to do.

Anythin gon deads? do I need to shoot from a different angle or anything?

[quote]paulwhite959 wrote:
So should I be pulling more towards my hip, or more more towards my shoulder (for where the weight should end up)?

I was kind of trying to mimic this:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/DBBentOverRow.html

I have more 10s; I can see if clearance works with those. I really don’t want more equipment than I need–space is a major concern and more equipment clutters things so I want to try the less equipment option first.

I lift again friday, I’ll drop a lot of the weight and try do them more towards my hip if that’sw what I need to do.[/quote]
It’s not really a matter of where the DB ends up, but what you pull with. You should be pulling with the elbow, not the hand. Most of the time, that means the hand should end up directly below the elbow.

[quote]Anythin gon deads? do I need to shoot from a different angle or anything?
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All I saw was you chasing some sound or something, and then a bunch of herp vids. Beautiful animals, BTW.

Damn. I have no idea what happened then, I’ll try to directly upload the video if this site lets that happen.
That sound is eastern narrowmouth toads calling; I thought it was a county record but someone beat me by a couple years in finding them out here.

I’ll try to pull with my elbow next time…I can already tell it won’t be as much weight :frowning: That always makes me sad but oh well. Of course the way I was doing them hit the arms and shoulders pretty well, so maybe I can alternate?

this may have my actual dead video in it. I have no idea what happened to the previous attempt at uploading it, and why the DB rows worked but that one didn’t. Very odd.

Ditch the straps and get some chalk, first of all. Or get some Sew Easy straps from Ironmind.

Read this:

There are some things you’ll change around a little bit over time as you fine tune your technique for your body structure, but it’s a great starting point.

I have (and use) chalk too. right now it’s in th ese big old chunks but after trying it that way I plan to break them up and dunk them in a rubbermaid or something similar.