[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Mateus wrote:
I am a bit confused by your post. You have been involved in several threads and/or topics regarding DC and have all this information already. As stated above, if you change the program then it is not DC anymore. And who gives a shit what Bruce Lee says. This is a program that is laid out for you and is to be run the EXACT way that it is laid out. Dante didn’t just wake up one morning and jot this shit down and call it gospel. Years of trial and error.
As far as your question regarding its effectiveness, yes it works. Yes people get stronger. Yes people get bigger. Yes it will break you down if you don’t listen to your body. And if you did the program as it was laid out, with the intensity that is required to make DC effective then you would not want or feel the need to do any EXTRA sets because you would be fuckin gassed. Do it right or just leave it alone…[/quote]
I respect the guys who follow it to the letter. But heres a problem I have with it. On the first workout, you do chest, tris, bis, back width & back thickness. Even though, there are limited sets, by the time you get to back and back is a major muscle group, I wouldn’t have the necessary energy to use the amount of weights to really work the back. I prefer to spread out the muscle groups per workout a bit more. Dante is a well informed person and knows his stuff. But so do many others. Hes not the end all be all of bodybuilding.
Lets just say, dc training is a part of mma, just like muay tai is. and id rather do mma, period. thats why I referenced Bruce lee, who is considered the father of mma. He took the positives from many different styles to form is own. [/quote]
First, maybe your mind-muscle connection just stinks, you are holding back, or you need to adjust your RP ranges, because like Plateu said above, I always get/got a pump from DC workouts.
Second, I have to question your knowledge of DC period as you incorrectly listed the split. The 2 way split goes:
A: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Back width, Back thickness
B: Biceps, Forearms, Calves, Hamstrings, Quads (except in cases where you are doing a stiff leg dead variation, in which case quads are done before hams)
Third, no DC is absolutely NOT a part of MMA, it’s not even remotely related and quite honestly diametrically opposed to MMA training. DC training is for people looking to add serious amounts of muscle mass to their frame in the shortest period of time, aka serious bodybuilders.
It is brutally taxing (which is why you are only in the gym 3 times a week), and often times you are already walking the fine line between over-reaching and progress without much of any extracurricular activity.
MMA training (or any combat sport training) is also highly taxing on the body. It also requires that you not be excruciatingly sore or have achy tired muscles from your workout the night before. SCREW doing 12 rounds of sparring or hitting the bag/mitts the day after going to failure 3 times (and as heavy as possible with good form) on chest, shoulders, and triceps! Or drilling wrestling shots or kicking the bag/mitts after doing a workout involving DC calves, heavy hamstrings (often times either triple RP or maximally heavy straight sets) and then doing a max set of 4-8 reps of a squatting/leg pressing variation followed by a quad widowmaker!
Heck, Dante even specifically advises people to NOT do DC if they are serious athletes in other sports (especially something like MMA).
So, if you are doing DC and training MMA, then you are either not pushing yourself anywhere near as hard during your DC workouts as you think, or you are probably just spinning your wheels with your MMA training.
Honestly though, you’ve thrown out just about every “hot/taboo” topic on this forum in this one thread (why not throw in “functional” in your next post just to finish it off), so I’ve gotta agree with others that this is probably a troll job.[/quote]
Ok, my bad, maybe I wasn’t all that clear. I wasn’t comparing dc training to mma at all. I was saying, how bruce lee once said, to take what works from many styles and make it your own to fit your own body. So, I was saying when it comes to body building and dc training, to take what you like from dc training and get rid of what you don’t like.
Things i like about dc training are the low volume, more frequent workouts, the rest pause sets.
things I don’t care for that much are the combining of to many muscle groups in one workout. I feel that the muscles being worked near last and last will not be worked as well.