I am stacking dbol, Proviron and EQ. I plan on going 15 weeks with the EQ and proviron and about 8 weeks with the Dbol. I have never tried this combination and not sure what to expect since i hear that proviron will negate the water retention caused by the dianabol so i suppose that this cycle may not be as effective for gaining overall mass.
I dont really mind this since my goal is to achieve an increase in quality lean muscle gains without the water bloat associated with dianabol.
Would this be a decent stack for building quality lean gains? any advice?
Interesting question since I am on week two of a ten weeker of test e 250mg E3D (w1-10), dbol 10mg 3x/d (w1-4), Proviron 25mg/d (w1-6), Proviron 25mg 2x/d (w7-10)
I started the Proviron early to counter elevated SHBG that I have had for quite a while. I would hate to think that I have short-changed myself some of the early dBol gains in doing so??
The “anti-bloat” this poster is talking about isnt that at all…
as i am sure you know proviron is a mild AI - add to that it is a high androgen and has been known (in days gone by mostly, although it is an effect i have enjoyed thoroughly) as a good drug to use in a show as it can give that dry grainy look - think Yates circa 90’s (among other compounds he used i’m sure)
IMO the anti aromatase properties from the proviron will NOT be counteracting the bloat from a Dbol/test cycle… and while it will make the estrogenic sides a little less prevalent and will reduce water somewhat - it isnt going to affect GAINS. PLUS as i mentioned the anti-bloat from the proviron wont be drastic, so no need to worry all around IMO.
Thanks JJ. That puts my mind at ease. The goal is a synergistic harmony between compounds - not a competition between them.
[quote] Brook wrote:
The “anti-bloat” this poster is talking about isnt that at all…
as i am sure you know proviron is a mild AI - add to that it is a high androgen and has been known (in days gone by mostly, although it is an effect i have enjoyed thoroughly) as a good drug to use in a show as it can give that dry grainy look - think Yates circa 90’s (among other compounds he used i’m sure)
IMO the anti aromatase properties from the proviron will NOT be counteracting the bloat from a Dbol/test cycle… and while it will make the estrogenic sides a little less prevalent and will reduce water somewhat - it isnt going to affect GAINS. PLUS as i mentioned the anti-bloat from the proviron wont be drastic, so no need to worry all around IMO.
well… in some cases you do want competition… masteron/proviron competing for the SHBG, Nolvadex competing for the breast receptors, proviron competing for aromatase… (does adex/letro compete with test for aromatase? not sure)
[quote] Brook wrote:
well… in some cases you do want competition… masteron/proviron competing for the SHBG, Nolvadex competing for the breast receptors, proviron competing for aromatase… (does adex/letro compete with test for aromatase? not sure)[/quote]
True. I hadn’t thought of the times when competition is desirable.
Proviron replaces that nicely… It is not testosterone that is the libido and “good stuff” provider… it is Dihydrotest… and proviron i believe is Methyl-DHT.