I think a lot of people understand what you’re saying. Anyone with eyes knows he is a strong dude. But your original post had no context. You said something like those were NOT rows, and his form sucked.
Well, if your coaching a beginner to do a dumbbell row, than thats probably not how you would coach it. Do you think that the way HE did those would be injurious to HIM? Do you think HE derives NO benefit from those?
I hate to sound like an E-retard by capitalizing some words, but you get my point. Elite lifters have different bodies and movement patterns than average joes. Look at an elite deadlifter pull, and you will see some rounding of the spine. But that doesn’t matter because they are using a tremendous amount of hip and upperback strength to do the lift.
So, you can criticize his technique (even if your less gifted), but until you fully understand how HIS body operates and the stressors he is under from this movement, your opinion on the issue is worthless.
I can take an introductory biomechanics class and watch Michael Johnson sprint that 200 he did in Atlanta (I believe) and criticize his running technique, but my opinion is useless because I have never approached those velocities or competed at that level. Get my point?
In short, it’s not apples to apples, his form didn’t suck for him, it was a great video, and if more people could row 175 pound dumbbells the world would be a better place. ahaha
Pat
[quote]Edders wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
Edders wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
hahahahaha!
yeah, obviously if he did them the way YOU would teach, he would be jacked, as is he is pretty average.
btw, he has a RAW 700lb squat, deadlift, and 500lb RAW bench. damn. imagine where he would be if he just listened to CW or CT and followed some of the routines posted here at T-Nation.
Oh wait a second…did I say he was strong? Yea I did.
yeah, haha, i got you. i usually do not jump onto comments like yours, i am just old enough to know about the way things were before the INTERNET(echo effects).
we(myself included, i trashed the Phil heath video of 225lb bench press 46 times) seem to like to find fault with just about everyone and everything.
as far as the dynamics of this site goes, i doubt that even a guy who looked like cave-man, or frank Zane, who could ass to ground squat 1000lbs like fifty times, AND was a proven lifetime drug free guy, would get some criticism from somebody.
no worries, true his ROM was a little short, and he did use a little “body english” like somebody else said, but he is a very strong guy.
i don’t nut hug too much, as i have been around the iron game for a while and trained and been around some world class strength athletes, and i don’t impress too easily, but form what little i know(read/heard) about this guy, i am pretty impressed.
a world class lifter who also has substantial RAW strength, does not adhere to any particular training dogma(he does not follow a traditional westside template even) and has great success in his personal life, (family man, a career as a pharmacist is think).
whatever, just my opinion, it is as worthless as the next guys…
Actually, I’ve been reading this site for a while and I have great respect for your opinion, unlike a few of the others who posted on this thread.
And I’m glad you agree with me:
true his ROM was a little short, and he did use a little “body english” like somebody else said, but he is a very strong guy.
And if some of the others would reread my original post they would see that I said essentially the same thing.
Maybe some of the clueless will read your post and learn.
It’s easy to respect this mans strength, and I do. But, at the same time that does not remove his technique from criticism. Even from someone less gifted such as myself.
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