[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
ACLU= against christian liberties union[/quote]
Churches collect billions of dollars a year without paying a dime in taxes, and people who contribute are allowed to deduct that contribution from their income for tax purposes.
Tell me again how badly Christians are persecuted.[/quote]
Mosques don’t pay taxes, so Muslims can’t be persecuted? Good to know.[/quote]
I think ALL religions are nonsense and Islam especially, so I’m not defending Islam at all. Once religion disappears, and it will, I hope Islam is the first to go.
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So you admit that not paying taxes in no logical way has any effect on persecution?
And religion will never go away. It may eventually become a worship of state, but it’s still the same ballpark.[/quote]
As to your first point, all I’m saying is that religious organizations are granted a special right. Hardly a marker of “persecution.” And while mentioning Christianity in schools has ruffled feathers and caused controversies, last time I checked, federal troops have never placed armed guards outside a church and prevented faithful from entering. If that ever happens, let me know and I will represent you for free. The idea that any religious group, especially Christians, are persecuted is based on a misrepresentation of the law. For instance, there is no law preventing prayer in school. Any student may pray silently to himself or herself. Back when I was religious, I used to do this all the time before tests. I was never sent to the principal’s office for this - heck, no one even knew I was doing it. What IS prohibited is having ALL students hear any sort of prayer said over the entire intercom system. There’s a difference.
As to your second point, I’m a libertarian, not a liberal. I just happen to agree with most liberals that religion is nonsense and I also believe in individual rights and personal freedom. I would NEVER favor making the state a religion.