D-Bol Suppression

[dirtbag]

Just been doing some reading. I came across this interesting bit of info. After talking to a guy in my gym that told me he does 30mgs of DBol on work out days only. And does this for 2-3 weeks.
He claims to have been doing this successfully for years. NO PCT no HCG or anything of that kind. Just some tribulus at the end of the cycle.

I asked regarding sides or anything like that. He said no. Just muscle gains. Its in an out of his body so fast that nothing happens cause of its short half life.

I thought, ok buddy lets see what happens when you get estrogen rebound on your off training days, shutdown more sides etc.

So I do a little more reading on the subject cause I thought I might learn something to tell the guy. Then I came across this.

In this study, done in the early 80´s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it´s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it´s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Body fat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance. I can only agree, having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day), I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ½ of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart.

In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won´t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you´d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT.

Here is where the info comes from…

Dianabol - Steroid.com

Now would this guy not be lying regarding his sides from dbol use? Or is it that D-Bol is not as suppressive as one would think or has been lead to believe?

[Westclock]

Orals clear the system quickly.

A low dose in the morning can be used for quite some time.

And using it preworkout, say 3 times a week would take a while to cause serious supression.

Problem is, different doses affect people differently, and dbol does aromatize.

Its more effective, safer, and easier to run in cycles with AI’s, stacked with other androgens.

[LillGuy001]

It may be something useful for him to get a better overall work out, however its very unlikley that this is helping him to gain and retain muscle from this protocol.

[Pretzel_Logic]

How many days does he work out? If he does 30mg 3x/wk and especially in the morning(according to Bill Roberts) he probably won’t get shut down much at all. Even if he does it every day, 2-3 weeks isn’t that long so you could probably do it and not take nolvadex or hcg after and be ok. Then take 3-4 weeks off and start all over again. That is for suppression and recovery, as far as making and keeping gains on that program, who knows?