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D-bol Side Effects

Yes, SDI labs, there is in fact an article on here describing the scam that they have going on, sorry you couldn’t have read it before you started taking your “gear”.

As for going to the doctor, thats probably a good thing because the ingredient in your d-bol is Methadrostenol not Methandienone. I have no clue what the hell the first one is but it could be dangerous.

As for the future, don’t be so naiive as to think you are ordering steroids from a site called legalsteroids.com You’re smarter than that. I hope.

-Kael

yea i wish i read the article, i was rushing into it. when i went back on the site i read the testomonials and their “full of it”.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Methandrostenolone is another name for dianabol so no worries there…

bushboy[/quote]

I don’t know if you were referring to my comment or not, but if you were, I said that the ingredient in his d-bol was Methadrostenol not methandrostenolone, and I noticed on the SDI labs website that there is a trademark/copyright next to this chemical name. This is what puzzled me, I’m guessing that it’s their own special blend of who the hell knows what. So if I had taken that stuff and felt that shit in my face, I would definately see a doctor and/or get that stuff analyzed by a professional to make sure that I didn’t put myself in any real danger.

yea im going tommorow

my doctor thinks i had pannic attacks and he gave me xanax to take when it happens.?. i dont know if he’s right about this one but we’ll see

[quote]codemiester wrote:
my doctor thinks i had pannic attacks and he gave me xanax to take when it happens.?. i dont know if he’s right about this one but we’ll see[/quote]

Do you know what the side effects of Xanax are?

Sounds right I had anxiety problems when i was younger in my teens, if the panic attack is severe enough the lack of oxygen can cause a tingling sensation in your face or limbs. Hopefully the drugs help, if you want some additional advice, a big thing about panic attacks is realizing your alright.

If you feel one comming on find something you can emerse yourself in don’t sit around and think about it. Also hormonal fluctuation can cause anxiety, it may be the less than effective crap your taking that is the problem.

good advise, im gonna also look up the side affects right now.

damn…this stuff can cause a lot of shit; halucinations being one of them and siezures if usage stops too quickly-wtf

Thirteen years ago, I was sitting around watching a football game, and suddenly my heart starts racing, my tongue went numb, and I couldn’t breathe. I was sure I was having a heart attack. I went to the ER, they checked me out, said it was not a heart attack, and sent me home. Two days later, it happened again. The next day it happened again. I cannot describe a panic attack, other to say that you truly, truly believe that you are dying. It is horrible. Anyway, I went to the doctor, he diagnosed panic disorder, and prescribed Xanax. It worked great, it completely stopped them. I took two tablets a day, one in the morning, one at night, no problems, no panic attacks.
Flash to twelve years later. I needed to go into an in patient center for an alcohol problem. When I got there, they informed me that I could not take Xanax there. Since I was court ordered, I had to stay, or I would have left right then. Well, let me tell you…coming off xanax was the worst, most painful experience I have ever gone through in my life. It was like 17 straight days of panic attacks, chest pain, hyperventylating, crazy sweating, uncontrolllable shaking, hallucinations, and on and on. It was absolute fucking torture. I was there for alcohol, but coming off the xanax was nothing short of torture. I could go way on about this, but dude, go easy on the xanax. I never thought I was addicted to it. I never took it other than as ordered by my doctor. But I found out that I was addicted to it, and benzos are reputed to be the hardest drugs to come off of, even worst than heroin.
Anyway, I have not had a drink or a xanax in 19 months. Sorry about the rant on the juice board.

One more thing. I had never, not once in my life, considered suicide. When I was coming off that xanax, I considered it pretty much constantly. Shit is crazy, addictive, poison.

I should add that a GP has no business making that sort of a diagnosis. If you think that it’s panic attacks, get a psychiatrist to check it out.

[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
I should add that a GP has no business making that sort of a diagnosis. If you think that it’s panic attacks, get a psychiatrist to check it out.[/quote]

whats a GP?

A GP is a general practioner, otherwise known as a family doctor.

However, a ‘‘GP’’ is more than fully able to diagnose and treat a basic psychiatric problem such as panic attacks.

Around 5% of people will experience panic attacks during their lives which basically means that your average GP gets people in his office who ‘‘think they were going the die the other day’’ a couple of hundred times a year.

As for the Xanax, it depresses some of your neurons’ activity. In a way, the Xanax brings a ‘‘panicky’’ or stressed out person back to what would be considered normal levels of stress (some people feel so stress that it inhibits their social and professional functionning).

For someone who gets panick attacks, its akin to the pump for someone who has asthma. There’s no need to feel like shit for 20 minutes thinking you’re going to die.

However, it is true that benzodiazepine have a highly addictive potential, when taken regularly over a sustained period, therefore the situation experienced 40&Big was to be expected and is kinda weird of the center not to have taken his prescription into account and tried to slowy reduce the dose like you should.

Because, the brain being accustomed to Xanax in bringing down the stress, when you remove it, the brain is unable to reduce stress (by neurotransmitters) alone and you feel worse than you did before…that is way you never take people off BZDs cold-turkey, just like you don’t take people off Prendnisone (cortisol) right there, you need to give the adrenal time to adjust (if not, death could ensue.)

For someone whose going to take it once in a while, it is akin to taking a couple of drinks once in while, not enough to make you crave alcool, but enough to solve your problems.

Of course, if you have an addictive personality, it might not be the best way to go (even if it is clearly the fastest its very effective) like if you enjoy drinking yourself into a stupor or if you like getting high a couple times a week to take the edge off.

Right now, your doc is going with a benzo over other possible medication because your panick attacks might be related to specific (and temporary) stressors and will go away on their own and would think that there is no reason of putting you on a medication that while effective takes a lot of time to start working. So he might be testing the chronicity of the treatment. Also a great many people prefer taking medication only when they feel like they need it (like a panick attack) even if its not the best way to go.

Anyway, hope some of this help,
AlexH
Relax!

[quote]Dandalex wrote:
A GP is a general practioner, otherwise known as a family doctor.

However, a ‘‘GP’’ is more than fully able to diagnose and treat a basic psychiatric problem such as panic attacks.

Around 5% of people will experience panic attacks during their lives which basically means that your average GP gets people in his office who ‘‘think they were going the die the other day’’ a couple of hundred times a year.

As for the Xanax, it depresses some of your neurons’ activity. In a way, the Xanax brings a ‘‘panicky’’ or stressed out person back to what would be considered normal levels of stress (some people feel so stress that it inhibits their social and professional functionning).

For someone who gets panick attacks, its akin to the pump for someone who has asthma. There’s no need to feel like shit for 20 minutes thinking you’re going to die.

However, it is true that benzodiazepine have a highly addictive potential, when taken regularly over a sustained period, therefore the situation experienced 40&Big was to be expected and is kinda weird of the center not to have taken his prescription into account and tried to slowy reduce the dose like you should.

Because, the brain being accustomed to Xanax in bringing down the stress, when you remove it, the brain is unable to reduce stress (by neurotransmitters) alone and you feel worse than you did before…that is way you never take people off BZDs cold-turkey, just like you don’t take people off Prendnisone (cortisol) right there, you need to give the adrenal time to adjust (if not, death could ensue.)

For someone whose going to take it once in a while, it is akin to taking a couple of drinks once in while, not enough to make you crave alcool, but enough to solve your problems.

Of course, if you have an addictive personality, it might not be the best way to go (even if it is clearly the fastest its very effective) like if you enjoy drinking yourself into a stupor or if you like getting high a couple times a week to take the edge off.

Right now, your doc is going with a benzo over other possible medication because your panick attacks might be related to specific (and temporary) stressors and will go away on their own and would think that there is no reason of putting you on a medication that while effective takes a lot of time to start working. So he might be testing the chronicity of the treatment. Also a great many people prefer taking medication only when they feel like they need it (like a panick attack) even if its not the best way to go.

Anyway, hope some of this help,
AlexH
Relax![/quote]

thanks for the input

Some GP’s are awfully quick when it comes to prescribing psychoactive drugs. Didn’t you tell him about the sham roids? I wouldn’t take this kind of shit from a GP.

[quote]carandrew wrote:
Some GP’s are awfully quick when it comes to prescribing psychoactive drugs. Didn’t you tell him about the sham roids? I wouldn’t take this kind of shit from a GP.[/quote]

Considering that 22% of Americans suffer from mental health problems in any given year, I would hope that GPs are quick to prescribe these medications and acknowledge the problems.

Doctors have to go by what they are being told by patients. Sure the doc can prob you further with other questions but if your answers fit a known pattern than its pretty easy for them to identify your problem and categorize you.

People need to learn something: You are not unique, you are like thousands of others who walk in doctor’s offices around the world and your problems are common place and don’t take 25 weekly sessions of 1 hour of psychotherapy to fix.

Its always a bit funny on these boards, people hear are ready to rub, inject or ingest basically anything herbal, ‘‘natural’’ or that has a latin sounding name, while taking the advice of some dumb twit who read a mercola.com article yet when they get a prescription from a guy who actually studied this for a minimum of 6 years…well that’s just grounds for a complete investigation of the FDA approval system and a full re-writing of peer-reviewed articles, while suspecting the militaro-induastrial complex of sedating everyone and trying to use biochemical markers to keep tabs on everyone.

Actually, it might not be so funny,
AlexH

I read Codemiester’s first and second-fitth responce,

My conclusion is, what a fucking idiot!!

someone like you cant piss me off anymore, for multiple reasons!!!

[quote]CraigxXx wrote:
I read Codemiester’s first and second-fitth responce,

My conclusion is, what a fucking idiot!!

someone like you cant piss me off anymore, for multiple reasons!!! [/quote]

       Yeah I don't think code should be attempting anything in the realm of performance enhancement right now until he read a hell of a lot of info on our site here. 

jesus dude, I would just stay off the xanax or anything else and just let the shit that you put in your body clear out. Don’t replace one fucked up drug with some other thing you probably don’t need. Did you tell the doc what the fuck you took? Probably not so that’s probably why he misdiagnosed you w/the panic attack syndrome.

                chill the fuck out,
                     TBN