So you will be injecting 100mg twice a week?
That is a lot of gear. Although you may need higher doses to get to high normal range, I am concerned that that will also create higher elevations of E. When the T hits, you will get very horny for a month or so. Most often that fades out. You will continue to get nocturnal erections. A sign that E is too high is when morning erections are lost and libido and ED are issues. In some cases, TRT without ancillaries can lead to a lower libido in the long run than you started with. And that will be at different E levels for different guys, different E:FT as well. So how you feel is what you need to tell the doc, he needs to treat you, not your lab reports. Having E in mid-high normal range can still kill your libido. You will be fully repressed. Have you talked to the doc about HCG*. That will also increase T a bit, keep nuts from shrinking and scrotum from pulling up tight to your body. Some feel testicular pain when their nuts shrink.
- 250iu EOD SQ is the dose that is based on research. Also elevates mood for many. Many docs are not aware of this:
Insurance: Can you get a Sam’s Club business membership or sub on someone else’s? 10ml test cyp (Watson’s) is around $42(US) ($99 at Walgreen’s). 100 #23 1.5" 3ml syringes $18 per 100, #29 .5" .5ml insulin syringes $12 per 100. 10,000 iu HCG $16.25 The gear is cheap, it is the blood work and doctor’s visits that are expensive. (No insurance here) If you are (later) on a high deductible health insurance plan, you can get a HSA, (Health Savings Account), you put tax free money into it and get a deduction on your taxes.
You pay medical costs, including aspirin and band-aids etc, from the account. The account earns tax free interest, sort of like an IRA. (If you own an S-corp, you pay into the HSA with taxed dollars and then get the tax credit.) So with one of those, you can get (legal) gear, doctor fees and blood work paid out of income tax free dollars. [/quote]
He is giving me 200mg cyp every 4days to jump start my free t. I gave blood yesterday before my first injection and will have results in a wk. I know it doesn’t mean anything but he has a large practice and seems to know what he is talking about. My free t 70 to 90 in every blood test I’ve had in two yrs. Even with total t being 450, free t is 83.
Free t% over 2yrs has bee 1.4 to 1.9. I have been to 2 other endos who never addressed my free t which kind of pisses me off. They always blew me off about injections because they knew I worked out and just assumed I was looking for better results. I just want to feel good and the androgel made me feel like sh-t.
This MD doesn’t care what my motivations are and is just looking to get me to where my levels should be. He has intentions of changing doses when he sees the tests he took. $15 copay at MD and $15 copay for all meds, t and syringes. I mentioned E levels and he said you have to have E. Would the fact that I’m not going intramuscular make any difference with the E levels.
He said going into the skin will release the levels at a smoother rate and not give me peaks and valleys. ??? Also, are you familiar with Veterans Benefits? I have that to fall back on when computer trading kicks in 100% which could be 6mo to 2yrs.
Thanks for the info. I too was surprised at the 400mg over 8 days. Hey, live and learn. Have a nice holiday.