Im 32 and been training for 4 years. I started lifting at 17 and was at 110lbs. stopped because of career choices. Started again in 2012 Im 5’0 at 135lbs 12% BF. I was gaining a little bit of fat at bulking this winter and cut down to 12% from 19%.
From the past my excuses for not gaining was that I was hardgainer. Learned that it was BS and started paying attention to diet and mind muscle focus when lifting. Huge help and wish I did this when I was young and dumb.
I am coming to a conflicting cycle plan that was configured for my stats vs a cycle plan that I think I should go on.
enough chatter plan 1 is the plan I was told to take. Plan 2 is the plan I have researched to take. I will state my questions and scepticism at the end of plan 1. And to clarify this is a first cycle. I have done some research, but I am looking to fill holes that I may not know and may have been mis-informed (this is what I hate about the internet).
12 week cycle:
Week 1-6: 600mg of deca, 100mg of suspension EOD. 2cc of enanthate every three days.
Week 7: Pull out the suspension and add 50mg of Winstrol EOD till week 12, 1cc of cypionate every three days.
Okay so this cycle plan confuses the hell outta me lol. I so see my self shutting down natural test production due to deca being there. but the test stacked with this is for one suspension and test E and Test C near the end. which I thought suspension needs to be taken daily sometimes even hourly. so every other day I would be getting a suspension spike. Test E will supply me with the Test to keep deca on track but at those dosages Im not certain Test E dosage is high enough or deca being low enough (300 instead)?.
My next issue is pulling out suspension. granted it leaves the body quickly but now Im reducing Test levels while deca is still there till week 12 and I guess Test E and Cyp make up for that but I was thinking of cutting out deca at week 10 or extending Test E and Cyp till week 14 due to deca half life or is there something that stacking test E and C does something I dont know about?
PCT for Plan1
Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg
500 IU’s per day for 2 weeks
W1-10 Test E 250mg every 3 days
W1-12 Adex 0.25mg every other day.
W 1-8 deca 300mg per week
W1-12 nolva 20mg/ if gyno hits
W1-10 caber 0.5 mg/ 2x a week if prolactin gives problems
W 13 Clomid 50mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Clomid 25mg/d
I understand that deca will shutdown my hpta but my main worry is androgenic sides more so then anabolic.
to the Bruce Banners out there Im looking for logical reasoning between the two plans and which would ultimately conclude with positive results better then the other. An educated (Banners) / experienced (Hulks) response would be most appreciated. I have done a little research but Im a thirsty person for knowledge and prep before executing. I love lifting and I love eating well. but Im looking for an edge. and thats why I have chosen to deffect to the dark side.
Thank you in advance for the time you volunteered in your day to read my post.