To anyone with knowledge of TRT or who has gone off:
I don’t think I need TRT and want to see if after 2 years on it I can produce my own T. I will get the LEF.org male panel blood test when I should be back to normal production to test T (I still want to keep my prescription so not testing through endo)
If currently on 20g daily Androgel, ksmans 250 EOD hcg protocol and anti-aromatase inhibitor; what would be the effect of stopping cold turkey? Arenï¿½??t my testes still working with the hcg? Should I take a large dose of hcg to jump start the equipment?
How long would it take them to get back to normal production and/or am I at normal production now with the hcg use?
The LH & FSH levels, how long for them to get back to normal? Also if I had to go to Doctor for yearly blood tests how long for them to go dormant again after going back on TRT?
Anything I should know about stopping TRT or any tips on preserving lean mass?
Would it still be advantageous to take a drop or two EOD of anti-aromatase inhibitor to keep e2 low?
If interested here is my story.
In April of 2006 (I was 36, 5ï¿½??6, less than 5% BF (136lbs average weight that month. For years, I have taken morning weight everyday, and then at end of month averaged 5 days for monthly weight. I used to be 162 and chunky before started running/Cardio in 2004.) So 2006 March I was sent to a hemoglobin specialist for low white/red blood cell count to get Okayed for a pre-op checkup. I knew nothing about TRT or T-Nation and just told the doctor my symptoms: I was irritable, weak & had no Libido.
I self diagnosed myself with Runners Anemia due to 100+ mile running mileage weeks(jogging 2-3 times a day) + other cardio & eating a lot of soy; however the doctor had never heard of that and prescribed TRT 5mg patch through my regular crappy HMO doctor. I went along because my HMO paid most costs and I guessed it could improve my performance and knew something was wrong. Well after a couple months the patches kept sweating off, and I ended up on Androgel 10mg per day.
Long story short I got an injury and applied myself heavily into Strength training with the occasional marathon and found T-Nation through TRT searches. I went to an endo for prescription for hcg per KSmans protocol and recently added his recommended anti-aromatase inhibitor. The endo at first wanted me to go off TRT for proper tests to see if I really needed TRT, but I pointed out Iï¿½??d be miserable and wanted to stay on. He did some alternate tests but said we canï¿½??t be sure I needed it. Oh my T-Levels were like 200 and even during first year & half on TRT always low like around 200-400 but that could have been because I stopped applying Androgel for a day or so before blood tests.
These two years my Nutrition, Training & Rest have been excellent and the first year on TRT I went from 136.2 to 161.7 (25.5lb mostly muscle ï¿½?? newbie gains and muscle memory) and this April I averaged 169 so just over 7lbs this last year and I basically applied 20g Androgel this whole last year. I still do a little to much cardio, but have reduced it greatly from 2 years ago. Iï¿½??m about 9-12% Body Fat now.
Well everything is good and my last tests were TotalT 794 with normal 241-827 ng/dL & FreeT 277 out 34-194 pg/mL & Free Weaky Bound 582 out 84-402 ng/dL so Iï¿½??m close high normal T. Unfortunately the pharmacies have stop giving me double my prescription (See old thread) and being as Iï¿½??m about to run out of the Androgel pump - this seems like a great time to find out if I can produce my own Testosterone without all the Cardio now. It also a good idea to let everything be natural for a couple months.
If possible I would like to save up my prescription and maybe do a semi ‘cycle’ once or twice a yearï¿½?ï¿½
Thanks for any help/information.