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Cycle Thoughts: Test E, EQ, Dbol


#1

Should this cycle be ran for 8 weeks instead of 12?

    Cycle

Week 1-12 Test E 250mg E3D
Week 1-12 EQ 200MG E3D
Week 1-4 dbol 30mg day
Week 5-12 proviron 25mg day
Week 1-12 HCG 250iu E3D

I've read the test taper thread. Is this correct?
Stasis
Week 13-17 Test E 100mg 1WK

     PCT

Week 18-23 Nolva 20mg ED
Week 18-23 TEST E 80MG,60MG, 50MG,40MG, 30MG,20MG


#2

Why would you want to knock it down to 8 if you’re using EQ? A 12 weeker would be minimum. When I finally run my EQ I’m going for 14.


#3

I just reread this post by furiousgeorge
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/cycle_length_pros_and_cons?id=1901504&pageNo=0

CONS

  1. Limited compound selection
    The drawback is you need to get in all the gains you can in only 6-8 weeks. For this reason longer (enth, cyp, deca, undeca) esters don’t make a lot of sense since they are really only kicking in around week 3 or later so this restricts us to (mostly) just short esters. - furiousgeorge

It makes since so running it for 12 weeks seems to be better than 8 weeks.
How does the cycle look overall? Any comments on additions or subtractions?

thanks


#4

like it.


#5

Wheres your estrogen support during the bulk of your cycle ?

If your running dbol and test you should be running an AI.

Mabey you just forgot to mention it.


#6

So far, so good.

Second Westclock’s advice on an AI.

Whats your cycle history like?


#7

AI during the cycle would be liquid arimidex since the tabs quite a bit more expensive. Dose would be either .25mg/day or .5mg/day.

question: the A-dex would be tapered after Week 12. Should it be tapered until Week 15 which is during the stasis period?


#8

background: just about to hit the big 3O. I’m 215 at around 13-14%bf. Five good years of training behind me. I haven’t done a cycle as of yet.


#9

ok, had a thought. The cycle, stasis, and PCT is around 6 months. Would this be the only cycle for that year using the “same time off as on” or could this be followed up with a similiar 6 month cycle?

Does the stasis period get everything back in order for another cycle or does it still require the same amount of time off?

just curious