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Cycle Proposal: Tren/Test


Stats: 22 y/o 425 bench 525 squat
Goal: lean bulk, i know its an oxymoron.

Week 1,2: 300mg Test Prop, 500mg test cyp, 250 mg tren E
Week 3: 100mg Test Prop, 500mg test Cyp, 250mg tren E
Week 4-10: 500mg test Cyp, 250mg tren E

Serm PCT: Nolva, T3

open to positive or negative suggestions on the dosages particulary the cyp and tren. Have never ran tren E before, but am fully aware of the side effects that come along with it. I am contemplating going 500mg a week of the tren and possibly 250mg of the cyp. if anyone has done a similar cycle and can weigh in on what test/tren ratio had worked best for them itd be greatly appreciated.


In general I think that would work out better for your stated goals and it will limit the potential for the typical tren sides.


You should use tren-a instead. That way you can adjust the dose. Also, you should add .5mg letro and increase/decrese the dose based on sides. People say tren doesn't have estrogen sides, but it does, it'll make the estrogen from the testosterone stronger.


Why t3 in pct?


Theloneus-thank you for the input

Lover- The tren e kinda fell into my lap from a friend, I would have done ace if i had a choice, but who can pass up free tren. I havent had any sides in the past except with nolva (shoulder and back acne), but i know trens a horse of a different color, thanks ill see where i can pick up the letro, ive read the gyno sticky and i may follow the protocol for not starting with it and getting on if it starts getting bad.

Bonez- I was going to run it at low dose probably through the last 6 weeks of my cycle rather than through pct for the extra protein synthesis, plus every time ive taken it its made me hungry alot so for a bulk its not a bad thing. i have enough to do a low cycle run but not a high cycle run so i might as well use it.



I think you are confusing whatever you are talking about with prolactin.


Yeah, Way, that one confused me too. I think he does mean prolactin sides, but like Bill Roberts has said over and over again, unless the tren has been cut with something (e.g. deca) you shouldn't get them.


I've never heard of t3 doing anything for protein synthesis. Do you have studies on that? Im curious about it


Bonez- typically i dont trust alot of websites with flashy advertisements, but ive read it in a few places. plus word of mouth which isnt always accurate though. as far as research at rna and dna levels i really dont know.l im going to have to sit down and spend some more time online researching, this is 2 sites i grabbed quickly.

Profile for T3
Bodybuilders take advantage of these charcteristics and stimulate their metabolism by taking Cytomel, which causes a faster conver sion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Bodybuilders, of course, are especially interested in an increased lipolysis, which means in creased fat burning. Competing bodybuilders, in particular, use Cytomel during the weeks before a championship since it helps to maintain an extremely low fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet. Athletes who use low dosages of Cytomel report that by the simultaneous intake of steroids, the steroids become more effective, most likely as the result of the faster conversion of protein.

cytomel profile
Thus we can see that there are many advantages to using Cytomel to optimize our metabolic rate. It will also increase your body´s ability to synthesize protein, but from what I´ve seen personally, it acts as a catabolic when it isn´t administered with anabolic steroids.

Wikipedia, not always accurate but still. Says along the same lines.