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Cycle on TRT?

On 300mg Test-E every 7 days by doctor. Also have acquired 30 ml of Drostanolone Propionate 100 mg. Any ideas/suggestions on how to stack the two or even if it should be done would be appreciated…

I love mast and test together But I think 300mg of test a week is a little low to run with the mast

My doctor seems stuck on the 300 mg per week. I’m trying to get him up to 400 mg weekly though. Do yo think that would beenough? I don’t see him going any higher than that & I want to stay legit…

You would see Decent results at 400mg but really it should be broken up into 2 injections just to keep the blood levels more stable

[quote]Old but New wrote:
My doctor seems stuck on the 300 mg per week. I’m trying to get him up to 400 mg weekly though. Do yo think that would beenough? I don’t see him going any higher than that & I want to stay legit…[/quote]

You don’t know what your doing. You don’t cycle on TRT.

Like everyone says read the “yellow sticky notepad” posts. Otherwise you will ruin your body & screw up your hormones & crash.

Ok. Let’s just remove TRT from the equation. I’m just a 39 year old guy who’s taking 300mg a week of UG Test E. I realize from the previous responses that I got it’s a general consensus that 300mg/weekly isn’t enough & that it should be split into 2 doses to keep blood levels consistent. Let’s also take into account that I didn’t just jump on this forum without doing any studying up. Now would the Mast taken with 400mg of Test-E be a good stack? Keeping in mind the plan was to take the Test @ 200mg twice weekly & the Mast EOD.

[quote]Old but New wrote:
Ok. Let’s just remove TRT from the equation. I’m just a 39 year old guy who’s taking 300mg a week of UG Test E. I realize from the previous responses that I got it’s a general consensus that 300mg/weekly isn’t enough & that it should be split into 2 doses to keep blood levels consistent. Let’s also take into account that I didn’t just jump on this forum without doing any studying up. Now would the Mast taken with 400mg of Test-E be a good stack? Keeping in mind the plan was to take the Test @ 200mg twice weekly & the Mast EOD.[/quote]

Anyone else? I seem to have offended Mr.Conservative over there. Again other opinions/ suggestions are always welcome. Thanks

300mg a week sounds like a meaty TRT dose to me! That must be fun.

You can absolutely stack the test and mast together, however you could consider getting another vial of test from illegal sources, and giving yourself another 300mg shot halfway through the week. That would make it a proper cycle.

Even if you stack the mast with your 300mg of test it’ll still work, just not as well as if you were doing a higher test dose. There certainly wouldn’t be anything wrong with it, and I’m sure you’d be happy with the results.

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]Old but New wrote:
Ok. Let’s just remove TRT from the equation. I’m just a 39 year old guy who’s taking 300mg a week of UG Test E. I realize from the previous responses that I got it’s a general consensus that 300mg/weekly isn’t enough & that it should be split into 2 doses to keep blood levels consistent. Let’s also take into account that I didn’t just jump on this forum without doing any studying up. Now would the Mast taken with 400mg of Test-E be a good stack? Keeping in mind the plan was to take the Test @ 200mg twice weekly & the Mast EOD.[/quote]

lol, oh no! Those UGLs are killing me!

[quote]Old but New wrote:
Anyone else? I seem to have offended Mr.Conservative over there. Again other opinions/ suggestions are always welcome. Thanks[/quote]

I am on TRT and have been for 1.5 years. I have done 2 cycles during that time. I did 600mg’s of test cyp EW and 500mg’s of EQ EW for 14 weeks. I only get my blood work done every 6 months but after my cycle I immediately went back to my TRT dose of 100mg’s per week and was completely fine. No crash, and I kept all of my gains. I recently had my bloodwork done and my test is still at 1100 so the TRT is still working. I also take a-dex and HCG during my cycle and I have never needed it while on the smaller TRT dose. I taper down for 2 weeks on the adex and hcg after the cycle is over and then just quit using it. Not medical advise by any means but this is what has worked for me in the past.

Thanks for the imput. I’ve been on the TRT for about a year now and got to a point where I was stuck so to speak. No more good gains. I added an extra 300 mg Test E on top of the 300 mg of Cyp my doc was giving me every week & started having amazing results. Problem was he sprung a test on me to check everything out & my Test level came back at 3600+! Everything else was perfect but he had a real problem w the high test levels. He took me off & I stopped with thd Test E also. My level dropped back down & he’s got me back on 300 mg Cyp weekly.I just gotta have patience & he’s gonna turn me loose & just have me come back every 6 months for labs. Sounds like that’s the schedule you’re on & it works fine. Again thanks for an answer & not a lecture like I previously received! Don’t mean to sound stupid but the adex is Novadex right? I’ve got that & also clomid. What dose of the adex were you taking by the way? Again thanks fof the help…

[quote]Old but New wrote:
Thanks for the imput. I’ve been on the TRT for about a year now and got to a point where I was stuck so to speak. No more good gains. I added an extra 300 mg Test E on top of the 300 mg of Cyp my doc was giving me every week & started having amazing results. Problem was he sprung a test on me to check everything out & my Test level came back at 3600+! Everything else was perfect but he had a real problem w the high test levels. He took me off & I stopped with thd Test E also. My level dropped back down & he’s got me back on 300 mg Cyp weekly.I just gotta have patience & he’s gonna turn me loose & just have me come back every 6 months for labs. Sounds like that’s the schedule you’re on & it works fine. Again thanks for an answer & not a lecture like I previously received! Don’t mean to sound stupid but the adex is Novadex right? I’ve got that & also clomid. What dose of the adex were you taking by the way? Again thanks fof the help…[/quote]

No problem man, PM me if you have any questions. Adex is arimidex and it is a aromotase inhibitor, basically a estrogen blocker. Nolva is something different. If you are on TRT you need adex to control your estrogen levels. I was using .25mg’s EOD. I would recommend the liquid adex because most of the pills come in 1mg pills and they are small. It is hard to cut them in quarters so I go for the liquid if I can find it. Also you dont need nolva or clomid if you are on TRT but I would also recommend HCG. Those drugs are for PCT and since you are always on you will never use it. I didnt need much HCG but I was using 300iu’s 2x a week also. I found my estrogen levels get crazy on HCG so make sure that you are using it in conjunction with the adex to keep it under control. So when your test level came back at 3600 what did you tell the doctor?

[quote]BSC819 wrote:
I also take a-dex and HCG during my cycle and I have never needed it while on the smaller TRT dose. I taper down for 2 weeks on the adex and hcg after the cycle is over and then just quit using it. Not medical advise by any means but this is what has worked for me in the past.[/quote]

I’m a bit confused. Are you saying you don’t use Adex and HCG while on TRT, and only whlie you are blasting? I thought you said something different in the post rigt above this, so I’m not sure.

Anyways, if you don’t take an AI, I was wonderin what your E2 is at on your TRT dose?

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]BSC819 wrote:
I also take a-dex and HCG during my cycle and I have never needed it while on the smaller TRT dose. I taper down for 2 weeks on the adex and hcg after the cycle is over and then just quit using it. Not medical advise by any means but this is what has worked for me in the past.[/quote]

I’m a bit confused. Are you saying you don’t use Adex and HCG while on TRT, and only whlie you are blasting? I thought you said something different in the post rigt above this, so I’m not sure.

Anyways, if you don’t take an AI, I was wonderin what your E2 is at on your TRT dose?
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Here is what I wrote:
I also take a-dex and HCG during my cycle and I have never needed it while on the smaller TRT dose. I taper down for 2 weeks on the adex and hcg after the cycle is over and then just quit using it.

I should have specified cycle meaning blast. My doctor does not give me the actual numbers they will just tell me if I am in range or not. She didnt give me the exact number but she has always said that I am not close to the high end on the E2. I have never had gyno or nipple sensitivity, bloating or anything like that while on TRT and I dont get that much on a blast either. I have experimented with HCG while on TRT due to some mild testicular atrophy but it made my skin break out like crazy. I am still suffering from that a bit after a blast with deca and cyp 2 months later. I just had my bloodwork done and E2 and everything else is within healthy range. I never had any ED problems with deca but it made me get acne pretty bad and my nuts atrophied pretty badly too, hence using HCG for the first time. And then my skin started breaking out worse even while taking the adex. Not sure if it was due to a change in prolactin or what. Not to highjack but VTballa do you know what might be causing the bad acne and what I can do to put a hault to it?

And i have never had my E2 levels tested while i am blasting just 2-3 months afterwards. I take adex because it just makes sense with my test levels really high my estrogen natuarally has to go up with it. please correct me if i am wrong. My doctor keeps my test levels around the 1100 mark and last time i was in it was almost 1300. They are talking about lowering my dose.

Usually for acne, either too high of test or too high of E2 is the culprit. The too high test makes your skin oily, and the E2 does something that I cant actually remember right now haha. Could also be a combination of the two.

[quote]BSC819 wrote:
And i have never had my E2 levels tested while i am blasting just 2-3 months afterwards. I take adex because it just makes sense with my test levels really high my estrogen natuarally has to go up with it. please correct me if i am wrong. My doctor keeps my test levels around the 1100 mark and last time i was in it was almost 1300. They are talking about lowering my dose.[/quote]

Is libido alright with those numbers? Maybe I’m getting older but without E2 labs I would be out of whack.

I don’t need sildenafil / viagra, just bring me someone that makes me horny ; )

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]BSC819 wrote:
And i have never had my E2 levels tested while i am blasting just 2-3 months afterwards. I take adex because it just makes sense with my test levels really high my estrogen natuarally has to go up with it. please correct me if i am wrong. My doctor keeps my test levels around the 1100 mark and last time i was in it was almost 1300. They are talking about lowering my dose.[/quote]

Is libido alright with those numbers? Maybe I’m getting older but without E2 labs I would be out of whack.

I don’t need sildenafil / viagra, just bring me someone that makes me horny ; )
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My libido has always been through the roof, even when my test was at 175 before TRT. Maybe I am just a pervert who knows. But after TRT, my libido is rediculous. A girl brushes up against me at the gym and I am ready to try and bone her. For some reason dbol on a blast makes it even that much worse.

??? I touched my pin w my fingertip because it looked like there was a piece of dust down by the base of it. My hand were clean & tip was brand new. Now I’m probably just paranoid but an hour or so after I injected now I’m second guessing sterility… Any input would b appreciated.