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Cycle Help


#1

Hello everyone. New member to this site. Need help with second cycle. I have gyno from previous cycle. Had gyno as teen, but did a cycle of test along with poor planning, and now it's slightly worse and embarrassing. Been a year and a half since last cycle. Been lifting for 5 years. Here is my next cycle, I just want to know how to run it. I want to be very safe keep in mind.

Test Cyp 500mg a week
Letro
Aromasin
Clomid
Nolvadex

My plan is to burn my gyno with letro as best I can. I want to do this cycle for 10 weeks. How do I run all this? My goal is to get rid of gyno as best I can and make some gains. I have a very healthy diet. 9% BF. Any advice helps. Nervous going into cycle. Thanks


#2

What dosages do you plan on running the aromasin and letro? Is the nolva going to be used on cycle or for post cycle. Too low of estrogen can cause a host of unwanted side effects including loss of libido.


#3

I don’t think another cycle is going to help you… Take the money you plan on spending for future cycles and start saving for gyno surgery.

There is an old protocol to use letro to reverse gyno. It’s under the sticky. I’m not sure how well it works. But I can tell you now there is no need for 2 AIs and 2 Serms. You waisted your money. Pick one or the other. And be careful with letro because is is very easy to crash your E2 with. And then you’ll be dealing with a limp dick.

Maybe try just running a low dose of Nolva for 4 weeks see if that helps.

20mg should be enough.


#4

Agree, no need for two of a kind. You need deeper knowledge.


#5

Unfortunately I do need more knowledge. Thats why I came to THIS site. You never “waste” money on gear. I was told to use letro during cycle to “burn” gyno. Then taper off letro and use Aromasin as my AI. I was also told to use both Nolva and Clomid as my PCT. I’m open to all responses, except douche bro science ones. I need someone who dealt with this before.


#6

I came here for help. If most agree that a cycle wont help, then I will never do a cycle again. I was told that Letro can “Burn” gyno. I was also told that you need to run Test while taking letro so your libido doesnt crash. I’m only wanting to run this to help get rid of my gyno. I heard wonder stories about Letro, then some say it does nothing… I planned on using aromasin after I taper off letro, Then using Clomid and Nolva as a PCT. I was told that it is best to use both. Tell me I’m wrong. Please. I want real answers from real experiences. BTW, gyno surgery is $9,000.


#7

Ross_AlanUSN10 Do you think I can just use Nolvadex? No other gear? To be honest I have been skeptical to jump on another test cycle. I at least want to bring it down some. When on cycle and using AI’s, I noticed a reduction in size. After getting off, it is somewhat painful.


#8

Get the gyno removed. My insuarance covered almost all of it and i paid roughly 500 dollars and it was definitely worth it


#9

aromasin and nolva will take care of gyno


#10

[quote]Yogi wrote:
aromasin and nolva will take care of gyno[/quote]
The Gyno Avenger!


#11

Op, no amount of test will save your libido when you tank your E2. Let’s just say for shits and giggles that it will, but by doing a cycle, you will still suffer temporary libido loss when you come off. You have been misled into a web of logical fallacies that only The Gyno Avenger can save you from.


#12

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Op, no amount of test will save your libido when you tank your E2. Let’s just say for shits and giggles that it will, but by doing a cycle, you will still suffer temporary libido loss when you come off. You have been misled into a web of logical fallacies that only The Gyno Avenger can save you from.[/quote]

The Gyno Avenger is here! He comes to restore normal nipples to all you high E sufferers!

Having low E for a little while isn’t exactly going to kill you. Way better than having tits.


#13

OP just run some aromasin and nolva. Try that first before surgery, and there’s no need to letro yourself into oblivion.


#14

what insurance do you have!? everything online says it’s a cosmetic procedure and not covered. don’t come on here and start spitting lies. how much Nolva and Aromasin do you recommend? I’m on 20mg Nolva everyday. no change in anything except my nipple don’t hurt. it’s just my right one that is noticeable…why do men even need nipples?!