[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
no I meant 100mg E3D…you could bump that to 125mg E3D if you wanted to…I found that was plenty for me to see an effect and not so much that I got cramping…cramping isn’t such an issue with BodyBuilding but it is a real problem with endurance sports…I play rugby and at anything 300mg/w and up I got so tight on masteron that I cramped up easily. Your muscles look really cool cause they are so tight they look like they are going to pop but not so cool if you have to pull yourself from a game because you are cramped up and can’t run.
That isn’t to say that this will be everyone’s experience, I have heard some users say they can run up to 600mg/w…everyone is different that’s why there is always a range… but then again some people may be taking underdosed masteron and thinking they are getting 600mg/w when they are really only getting 300mg/w.
I found 250mg/w to be my sweet spot with mast - I get a good strength increase, no added bloating from estrogen, some fatloss, but most importantly no cramping.
If running Deca or EQ I would do so only at very low doses (200mg/w deca or 300mg/w EQ) because higher doses will bloat you up and be counter productive. Personally I don’t like EQ for cutting but again we are all different. I really didn’t find the EPO side to be that great in terms of running but it did help me stay in the gym longer because my recovery was very good.
I have run the exact doses that I advised, played rubgy on those doses, and loved it…add in some primo (400-800mg/w) and I think you’ve got an ideal sports cycle…primo is expensive and doesn’t add a huge benifit over what you’ve already got with the test and mast so the cost isn’t really worth it unless you are a pro athlete or you are brewing yuor own cheap…you could maybe reduce your test a bit if you added primo so that the cycle would look like this:
W 1-8 Test 400mg/w
W 1-8 Mast 250mg/w
W 1-8 Primo 600mg/w
- all enth esters split into E3D shots
Again this is a cycle I have ACTUALLY done while playing rugby and it was very good for me personally…will it be great for everyone…I don’t know?
Just my 2cents.
FG[/quote]
Your experience with Mast is fair enough FG, but there were a couple of things that stood out - firstly, no matter the dose of Masteron, one will get no estrogenic bloating - DHT has zero affinity for aromatase and as such will not convert to estrogen.
Secondly you mentioned that doses above 300mg of Eq will bloat one up… this also isnt quite correct IMO, in that while Eq technically does aromatise (apparently 50% at the rate of Testosterone) - it doesnt to any degree that causes bloating of any kind, not in even higher doses. At least that is the personal experience of myself and those i have spoken to.
Test increases bloating and fat gain way over Deca, and it is my opinion that Deca is a very good anabolic for ‘quality’ gains… it gives relatively large increases in muscle (compared to Mast, Primo, Eq) but with less of the water and fat attributed to Test.
Performance wise, a 50-50 split of Test-Deca would be much better than a 100% dose of Test… the gains will match the Test only cycle, but there will be less fat and water - making the gains ‘leaner’ if you like.
Deca is very misunderstood in this regard, and i think it is due to low-dose Test fakes out there.
However i like the cycle you suggested FG (400TE, 250ME, 600PE) - although i do think that better/equal results can be achieved with a less costly cycle - prolly due to the Primobolan really.
(I personally think that ‘speed’ and ‘stamina’ are non-issues with regards to AAS use… any AAS can be used to help increase these factors of fitness, training dependant. As i mentioned in my post, the usually higher than needed doses bodybuilders use are higher in sides and will not be useful for peak performance - but when low/moderate dosages are applied, almost every drug we use regularly here will be productive in increasing performance in training and thus lead eventually to increased speed or muscular endurance - JMO.)
Brook
