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Cycle Could Use Some Revising

I am 5.9 165lbs 12% BF have work out for about 10yrs 7 of which were pretty hard, (trainng for sports. I am 26yoa.
I am planing a 10wk cycle of EQ and Test prop.
I have enough to do
600mg/EQ a wk (1ml=200mg)
400mg/Prop wk (1ml=100mg)
both products british dragon
I plan to run liquid dex (30ml 1ml=1mg) at .5 for 12wks

for post cycle I have
liquid clomid at 30ml 1ml=50mg
HCG 2 5000iu thinking about 250-500iu for two weeks.

I also have 11 tabs of winn 50mg and 20 tabs of anavar 10mg I was wondering if and how I should brigde these into a post cycle?

any advice you have would be extremely helpful I have read other cycles but it would just be helpful to get advice on my specific cycle.
thanks

The Eq I was thinking about 2 shot of 300mg/wk and prop I was thinking about 3 shots aweek 2 at 150 and 1 at 100 just to keep the measurements simple.

on the clomid I was thinking 50 for 3days then 100 12days then 50 again for 3days.

If I use the winny at low doses with the anavar and the HCG and the Clomid and the liquaidex will that mess up the point of my post cycle because I I am trying to make if so I keep as much of the gains as possible.

[quote]stillearning wrote:
I am 5.9 165lbs 12% BF have work out for about 10yrs 7 of which were pretty hard, (trainng for sports. I am 26yoa.
I am planing a 10wk cycle of EQ and Test prop.
I have enough to do
600mg/EQ a wk (1ml=200mg)
400mg/Prop wk (1ml=100mg)
both products british dragon
I plan to run liquid dex (30ml 1ml=1mg) at .5 for 12wks

for post cycle I have
liquid clomid at 30ml 1ml=50mg
HCG 2 5000iu thinking about 250-500iu for two weeks.

I also have 11 tabs of winn 50mg and 20 tabs of anavar 10mg I was wondering if and how I should brigde these into a post cycle?

any advice you have would be extremely helpful I have read other cycles but it would just be helpful to get advice on my specific cycle.
thanks [/quote]

suggestions:

-change out the prop for enan, or cyp, or even sust.
-extend your cycle length to 16 weeks to get more out of the EQ

  • a-dex could be used @ 0.25 mg ED for 400 mg of test.
    -if you’re gonna use HCG, it should be during cyle IMO. a weekend protocol of 250-500 IU sat and sun.
    -the var and winny are not in sufficient amounts to really add in. if thats all you have, just take 50 mg winny and 10 mg var pre workout during weeks 17-19.
    -start PCT week 20…or run a test taper with a SERM

thanks for the advice any other ideas out there

I agree with Juice.

Running EQ with Prop is sort of strange. EQ is the longest Ester and Prop is nearly the shortest. It makes things easier if you have similar esters so you inject them at the same time.

There is no reason you can’t do it though.

Well I already bought the prop and the Eq so that is what I have to work with also on the winny it was 21 tabs not 11. How should I run the prop shots with the eq as far as injections and frequency of injections go?

EQ has a very long half life so you are fine with injecting it once or twice a week.

The prop needs to be injected every day or every other day.

If it were me I would prob just mix a little EQ in with each prop injection and do tem at the same time.

Every mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri
150 Eq and 100prop= 600eq and 400prop a week (this for 8wks) (4800mg EQ total) and (3200mg prop total)
Then week 9 400 eq and 400 prop
Then week 10 300eq and 400 prop
Then week 11-12 200 eq

Also Every day .25 liquidex through week 15

Post cycle
Wk 11-13 Clomid 50 for 3days then 100 12days then 50 again for 3days.
Wk 11-13 HCG at 250 UI
Wk 11-13 50mg of winny ED
Wk 14-15 20mg of var for 10days

what do u thin about this

should I bump the winny 50 ed to wk 9-12 instead so it does not negativly effect my post cycle? How are the injection break downs? What about my doses and length for post cycle?

[quote]stillearning wrote:
Every mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri
150 Eq and 100prop= 600eq and 400prop a week (this for 8wks) (4800mg EQ total) and (3200mg prop total)
Then week 9 400 eq and 400 prop
Then week 10 300eq and 400 prop
Then week 11-12 200 eq

Also Every day .25 liquidex through week 15

Post cycle
Wk 11-13 Clomid 50 for 3days then 100 12days then 50 again for 3days.
Wk 11-13 HCG at 250 UI
Wk 11-13 50mg of winny ED
Wk 14-15 20mg of var for 10days

what do u thin about this

[/quote]
I was feelin it until this part. Why do you go down to 200mg in weeks 11-12 for the EQ?
Do remember that just because your bottle is 10ml it doesn’t mean you will get a full 10ml out of it. Some juice gets left in the syringes each time you inject. I always push a drop out of the needle so it lubricates the injection site, etc.

I have been running EQ and I was planning a 14 week minimum. Unfortunately because of unforseen circumstances I have to cut the cycle short at 10 weeks and I can’t even tell you how disappointed I am that I’m not gonna really see the main gains of EQ. In other words, don’t do 11 weeks, and don’t half ass the last two weeks.

It’s all up to you, but if it were me I’d buy some test enan and go for a longer cycle, or I’d couple the test prop with something like tren in a different cycle.

Once again: learn from my first cycle mistake. Don’t use EQ for only 10 weeks, I am at 8 weeks now and I feel like I’ve made a big investment in time, money, food, and workouts that isn’t going to yield 100%.

well should I lower Eq dose to 400mg/wk and streatch it out to 14wks