Geez … you really don’t have a clue.
Let me start by saying this: Stay away from deca! It is useless for an 8 week cycle. The ester is so long that by the time it starts to get into your system, you will be near finished with an 8 weeks cycle.
THEN it will hang around in your system way past the time you complete the cycle. Making for a terrrible time recovering. I have to say the same for EQ. Both of these drugs have esters that are only appropriate for long cycles. Oh, and I know, I know … BUT YOU USED EQ BEFORE WITH GOOD RESULTS FOR AN 8 WEEKER!!! I don’t want to hear it.
If you have access to prop and winny … that is the way to go. You aren’t going to put on 20lbs lean mass in eight weeks, though. To do this you need stronger compounds which will add some water, or you need a longer cycle. The prop and winny will give you clean gains. I have to admit, though, that I notice a bit of bloat with prop at the onset of a cycle. But I tend to run prop at a higher dose than most.
SUGGESTED USE FOR AN 8 WEEK CYCLE:
50mg test prop ED (week 1-8)
50mg stanozolol ED (week 1-6)
0.5mg anastrozole EOD
*Some use 100mg prop EOD, but since you are going to be injecting winny ED, might as well inject prop.
30mg tamoxifen citrate ED (10mgAM/20mgPM)
*Most people suggest that you use this for 4 weeks post-cycle. I say use it until you FEEL recovered, BUT FOR A MIMIMUM OF 4 WEEKS. So that means you should use the tamoxifen for a longer period if you think you need to. I can tell by my mood, libido, body comp, and general state of my testicles if I am recovered from a cycle or not. You might not be able to distinguish like I can, but I am more experienced at this sort of thing.
Now, with all this said (and I said it to help you out since you are going to go through with this regardless of what I say). I think you need to learn how to eat better, train better, sleep better.
You gained weight from a measly 150lbs to a measly 185lbs riding on the back of anabolics. Which tells me that, even though you think you know what you are doing, you don’t know what you are doing.
I am not saying that you are stupid. Maybe you have received a lot of bad advice from friends who swear by shitty supplements like PHERAPLEX (I can only assume that this is what he, and you, are referring to). Maybe you are lazy. Maybe you haven’t REALLY put your nose to the grindstone and worked hard at eating right and training right.
And it is hard to do that! Which is why everyone you see in the gym looks like shit. They train and eat, but they half-ass it and end up looking … average. And the only way for them to look any different is to pump anabolics. And even then, they still look average- the type of guy that if I saw on the street, I would have a hard time discerning whether he was just a fat guy or a “bulky” guy who works out. I am rambling. Hope this helps you. -Lattimus