I honestly don't really work with any PL any more - so nothing I'm too concerned about. Maybe a 1-2 times a month, bar speed 100% great. This is only during the appropriate cycle. We use 5 forward/3 back and only use Jokers for 2 of 10 cycles.
People get stronger here, using the exact same programs as you see.
We train high school kids, dudes that want to be fucking great and we are pushing my new conditioning/strength training combo to new levels. Always evolve.