I only tried it once and it was tough. Roids tend to make me hungry as hell so keeping a diet was a bitch.
I’m lucky. I have strong resistance to hunger…
I lost a crap load of fat and actually gained muscle.
how much :)? which bf% do you have before/after cycle?
I based this off of what I would eat while juicing, not my normal BMR.
how do you define your needs under cycle?
I started with 3 cardio sessions and slowly ramped them up to 5 a week. 2 HIT style ones and 3 steady state.
I hate cardio :
This is the real problem… I’ll need all my will to add cardio sessions
By now I train (with weight) with a days split… ~1h x day
Protein I kept at around 2-2.5g/lb and at a low fat, moderate carb diet.
wow really a lot of proteins
I have to duplicate my total
12 week cycle (ended diet after 9 weeks, used the last 3 to bring up my metabolism and prep for PCT)
weight before: email@example.com%
weight at end: 205@7%
weight after PCT(8 weeks later): firstname.lastname@example.org%
All the bodyfat stuff was taken with plastic callipers by my wife so I’m sure there was some error. But the readings where fairly consistant every 2 weeks.
I define my needs by experience. Since I’m an endomorph and prone to fat gain I always keep a food log so I went back and looked at how much I ate while on this drug combo and how much my weight fluctuated. Then I just adjusted for my current goals. Really thats just a place to start. I had to reduce calories about every 3 weeks to keep my fat lose where I wanted it.
Protein was the last thing I would reduce. I always dropped fat and carbs before protein. The only time I dropped my protein is when I started having a serious lack of energy. I also used periodic re-feeds when I started feeling like crap. But I kept them very healthy. Ususally a bunch of oatmeal with skim milk.
Unless your crazy huge and already pretty lean I don’t think you have too much to worry about when it comes to muscle loss while juicin as long as you get in enough protein and heavy training.