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Cutting Cycle Advice


#1

Not ready for tren.

Love long esters.

Possible cycle ideas:
1-16 test 600mg/wk
1-16 1-test cyp 600-800mg wk
1-5 prop 100mg eod
10-18 var 100mg/ed

Or

1-16 test 600mg/wk
1-16 mast e 400-600mg/wk
1-6 winstrol 100mg ed
10-18 var 100mg ed

Or...

1-18 test 600mg/wk
1-17 Eq 600mg/wk (most will say counter productive for cutting)
1-18 mast 400mg/wk
12-20 var 50mg/wk

I love winstrol so im assuming ill like mast and 1-test. Im leaning towards the first proposed at around 800 for the 1 test. This is mostly for cuttin but some size and strength is always a plus lol.


#2

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#3

Neither. Which is why im leaning towards the 1 test. I should have been more clear this is more of a recomp. Id like to see 8% bf without the use of clen. I may consider albuterol. NO DNP.

The real reason for the lengths in the esters. I get pretty bad PIP off normally dosed test so id like stay away from prop.

1test pip. Is supposedly a bithc but a week inject I can deal. I think im going to run it @ 750mg/wk AND the EQ.

If I like how low I get in BF (which honestly shouldn't take more than 1-1/2 months) then I could just switch to a lean bulk.

So far looking at this as the final idea.

1-16 Test 600
1-15 eq 600
1-16 1-test cyp 750
1-6 winstrol 50mg ed
10-18 var 75mg ed

Toggle an ECY and diet and it should be a wicked cycle.


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#5

No.
600mg testosterone

750mg 1-testosterone cypionate.

1-test is a dihydroboldenone. Its like EQ without being as adrogenic yet more anabolic than EQ or even Deca. Its pretty hard to find and its a bit pricey but as far as recomps go people compare it to tren without sides (which honestly most say thats bullshit)

You'll burn fat and gain muscle similar to tren but needs to be run longer at higher doses similar to primo (its a butt load cheaper) with adequite diet its very effective.

To be honest the only real comparisons to tren are night sweats (no sleep issues since it doesn't have much of an effect on prolactin) and it ability to add mass and strength on a lower calorie diet.

I heard its a bitch to you hairline though worst than mast for some. I have had no issues with winstrol so im pretty sure ill be fine if not ill drop it and run my test and eq higher or even just grab some mast.

I need to look further into how the 1-test and EQ will work together since they are so very closely related.


#6

I gotta say it sounds very interesting, this 1-test. I have never heard of it before. Would be awesome if you could write an update on how you think it works!


#7

You know Tren E exists, right? lol.....


#8

I might just do that. I have yet to use it personally but alot of people love it.

Its hard to come across. Its hard to search on info because most of the searches are flooded with test e, cyp and M1T shit.


#9

I might just do that. I have yet to use it personally but alot of people love it.

Its hard to come across. Its hard to search on info because most of the searches are flooded with test e, cyp and M1T shit.


#10

I don't want to use tren yet. If I were I would start with ace. Before I even do that I want to know how I react with mast. So I can skip pinnin 3 ccs and just pin a 1/2 cc triblend ed.

Im holding off on the 19nors till I dont give a fuck if I end up on trt (probably 40s)