[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
There is a difference between culture and race. The two are often used interchangeably, but that isn’t the case. I still don’t think this has anything to do with actual race (genetics).[/quote]
Dunno, ppl get all touchy feely discussing this stuff for obvious reasons, although they don’t have much problem accepting that there probably never will be white Hussein Bolt etc.
This may sound a little hitler-esque but there are well documented differences between say mongoloids and sub-saharan africans, denying them is just silly. [/quote]
Statistics don’t speak for the individual. There are always outliers. Besides, the groups you mentioned aren’t mutually elusive. Are you saying that a person with any white DNA couldn’t be as fast as bolt? You have to realize ethnic groups themselves are at least partially blurred if not more or less imaginary. They aren’t real things.[/quote]
Well, the fact that the boundaries between subjects are blurred doesn’t mean the subjects don’t exist. Just because there’s “gray” doesn’t mean there’s no “white” or “black”.
And yeah, if I was blindly placing bets on athletes just based on their skin color I would go with white swimmers and black 100m sprinters.
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The individual subjects being the only things existing is exactly what I’ve been arguing. And the blurring of ethnic/racial lines does mean that the groups don’t really exist.
And you’re an idiot, because if I (or any intelligent person) were betting they wouldn’t factor in skin color at all, they’d use track record.
And even if you did go based on color, your thought is still dumb, because virtually all 100m sprinters are black and all swimmers are white. Your assertion that you would bet on the race that virtually all persons in that sport are doesn’t add any value to the betting selection. You essentially you just claimed you’d bet on everyone.
And even if that weren’t the case, the assertion is still dumb because you are apparently forgetting that skin tones go across the spectrum and can even change due to diet or sun exposure. There is no black/white line in skin tone. Are you asserting that the darker a persons skin is the faster they can run on average? So if there were 2 people of African dissent, you would bet on the one with the darker skin?
Also, are you aware that the black race has genetic groups that are essentially on opposite ends of the spectrum when if comes to muscle composition and explosive power generation? There is a large population of black genes that are terrible for explosive running?
You have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]
These points bear some truth, but there is definitely a defineable assertation of ethnicity in both genotype and phenotype.
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Not to the extent of scientific fact. You cannot give me a sequence of DNA that specifies an exact ethnicity and isn’t possible in other ethnicities. And even if there were, this misses the fact that people of mixed ethnicity still blur the lines.
And definitely no assessment of life situations ever includes an investigation into the genetic makeup of an individual.
Besides you have been reduced to only talking about strictly ancestry at this point and NOT the physical or physiological traits we associate with race.