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#1

I think I have finalized my 2nd cycle between these 2 options. Kinda driving myself crazy trying to decide now.

Option 1
Weeks 1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500 MG Per Week
Weeks 1-10 Deca-Norma @ 200mg
Weeks 5-7 10-12 14-16 HCG 250iu x2 per week
Arimidex .5 every 3 days if needed

PCT:
Weeks 15-19 Nolva 40/20/20/20
week 14-16 HCG 250iu twice a week

Option 2

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500 MG per week
Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 250 MG per week
Arimidex .5 every 3 days if needed

Stasis Weeks 13-17
Test E 100 mg per week
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Taper Weeks 18-21
80/60/40/

Pluses and minuses:

Same price for both options but option one is pharm grade while option 2 is not

Can use the test taper in Option 2

Which one looks better guys?

I’m kinda dying to try sustanon so I’m leaning towards number 1

Also cycles were built around not having any leftovers, so amounts are exact.

#2

I’m pretty sure you don’t need and probably shouldn’t use hcg during post cycle. In option 1 you don’t mention arimidex. You may not need it but you should still have it. It’s also going to get annoying to shoot sust EOD for 12 weeks, which is why I would go with enanthate.

#3

I was planning on monday wednesday and fridays for the sustanon, heard that would be suffice.

forgot to mention arimidex in option 2 but will have some doctor prescribed standing by!

#4

[quote]iannotti wrote:
I think I have finalized my 2nd cycle between these 2 options. Kinda driving myself crazy trying to decide now.

Option 1
Weeks 1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500 MG Per Week
Weeks 1-10 Deca-Norma @ 200mg
Weeks 5-7 10-12 14-16 HCG 250iu x2 per week
Arimidex .5 every 3 days if needed

PCT:
Weeks 15-19 Nolva 40/20/20/20
week 14-16 HCG 250iu twice a week

Option 2

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500 MG per week
Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 250 MG per week
Arimidex .5 every 3 days if needed

Stasis Weeks 13-17
Test E 100 mg per week
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Taper Weeks 18-21
80/60/40/

Pluses and minuses:

Same price for both options but option one is pharm grade while option 2 is not

Can use the test taper in Option 2

Which one looks better guys?

I’m kinda dying to try sustanon so I’m leaning towards number 1

Also cycles were built around not having any leftovers, so amounts are exact. [/quote]

With Norma Deca the 2mg/lb bodyweight is truer than elsewhere i find. That is to say, you are likely to get the best results/side effect ratio with 300mg/wk or above with norma deca.

I think either are fine. Drop the HCG after cycle and use it all during, use a test taper… sust or enanth is fine, inject sust 4x/wk if possible or else choose enanthate. Deca at 300/wk unless organon.
begin to use nolvadex during the taper… around the 60mg week, then continue it on after the test taper ends.

B

#5

Injecting Sust MWF is perfectly fine.

Move HCG to during cycle.

If you’re dying to try sust then try it :slight_smile:

bmc

#6

[quote] Brook wrote:
iannotti wrote:
I think I have finalized my 2nd cycle between these 2 options. Kinda driving myself crazy trying to decide now.

Option 1
Weeks 1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500 MG Per Week
Weeks 1-10 Deca-Norma @ 200mg
Weeks 5-7 10-12 14-16 HCG 250iu x2 per week
Arimidex .5 every 3 days if needed

PCT:
Weeks 15-19 Nolva 40/20/20/20
week 14-16 HCG 250iu twice a week

Option 2

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500 MG per week
Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 250 MG per week
Arimidex .5 every 3 days if needed

Stasis Weeks 13-17
Test E 100 mg per week
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Taper Weeks 18-21
80/60/40/

Pluses and minuses:

Same price for both options but option one is pharm grade while option 2 is not

Can use the test taper in Option 2

Which one looks better guys?

I’m kinda dying to try sustanon so I’m leaning towards number 1

Also cycles were built around not having any leftovers, so amounts are exact.

With Norma Deca the 2mg/lb bodyweight is truer than elsewhere i find. That is to say, you are likely to get the best results/side effect ratio with 300mg/wk or above with norma deca.

I think either are fine. Drop the HCG after cycle and use it all during, use a test taper… sust or enanth is fine, inject sust 4x/wk if possible or else choose enanthate. Deca at 300/wk unless organon.
begin to use nolvadex during the taper… around the 60mg week, then continue it on after the test taper ends.

B[/quote]

Thnaks brook…WQell since you put it like that with the Norma dosage it would be slightly more cost effective to buy the organon and run it at 200mg vs doing Norma at 300mg…My one concern is, I’m curious if 500mg of test is too much gear for my second cycle, I ran 300mg of test e and 300mg of EQ in my first cycle…Only time will tell…

#7

i think you will get GREAT results from 300 test E and 200 Yellow Cap Deca.

(adex and pct too)