im assuming this is a 4 day split....these seem like pretty intense workouts. honestly i dont think you need to add so many supplemental moves to the main lifts, just maybe 1 or 2 a workout. plus, if you can do all this is one workout your intensity cant be high the whole time. take a few exercises out and go all out on maybe 3 a workout. thats my opinion
What has this world come to... that is, what has the lifting community come to?
The guy wants to get strong, he wants to get big. People are already tearing him apart, just because he mentioned the word strength. Are we all not for the endeavor of getting both bigger AND stronger? So his routine isn't 'pure bodybuilding', but I don't see this guy doing a powerlifting routine or competing in a powerlifting meet, thus, he shouldn't post in the powerlifting sub-forum, he should post here... here in the Bodybuilding forum where folks are trying to get BIGGER and STRONGER.
People show no support these days and are quick to shoot people down. The old-timers of the 50s, 60s, and 70s would be disgusted with the lack of camaraderie.
Yeah he's not training arms, but at least he's doing some dips and chins which can build some pretty decent arms. I'm not saying his routine is optimal, but he's already on the right path focusing on the big movements, dips, chins, squats, etc.
And I said myself the routine isn't anything a bodybuilder would follow, but why does the bodybuilding forum have to be just 'pure bodybuilding?' How many people are actually competing here? Why can't it be for people who want to get bigger AND stronger? Why can't people have a strength-oriented routine, with 'getting bigger' as a plus? Why, when someone mentions the word 'strength', people release the hounds in that person? Like I said, we are all in the endeavor of getting bigger and stronger, so we should only see constructive criticism in this thread. The guy isn't competing in powerlifting or lifting like a powerlifter, so I don't see why he can't post in this sub-forum.
And the last line isn't a joke, I don't see why you think it is. I've read a lot of books from the big names of the 50s/60s/70s, and the tone they bring out in their writings about the sense of unity between lifters would dismiss this garbage. Are you not part of the Brotherhood of Iron?
No one in the brother hood of iron is lifting 3 days a week. Thats considered active recovery.
If someones routine doesnt even hit all the muscle groups
I realize youre just saying this stuff just for the sake of it. And probably trolling by saying that people have built pretty decent arms with chins and dips. Bullshit. Fuck, this is a retarded discussion. And also trolling by implying that people who actually take bodybuilding seriously arent getting stronger.
Its nice that you read books about 'big names'. I dont see any 'big names' conversing here. Do you think every single person felt the same way because they lived within the same 3 decade span?
Can you answer this honetly please. If you frequented the powerlifting or O-lifting forum and someone came in and posted a thread titled "Critique my hypertrophy routine" and then outlined Jay Cutlers exact split comprised of 2 hour sessions chock full of HS machine work and FST7 training, what do you think would happen?