If you are going for total body strength, you should consider adding bench press and deadlift. You can’t clean as much as you can deadlift, and you can’t press as much as you can bench press.[/quote]
Those are obvious and irrelevant points. You don’t have to bench press and deadlift to be strong. Unless, you want to be strong at bench pressing and deadlifting.
The deadlift will allow you to pull more off the ground than the clean, therefore better developing strength off the floor. The lifts therefore complement each other, as the clean builds power and explosiveness, while the deadlift builds pure strength. The bench press allows you to push more weight than the press, therefore better developing the chest and triceps. The press is more of a total body lift (if done standing), and will compliment the bench press (and vice versa), but for most people nothing builds upper body strength better than the bench press.
If the OP truly wants total body strength, these are important points to consider, and I fail to see how they are irrelevant. You don’t have to bench and deadlift to get strong, but they can make the path easier. Being truly strong at bench pressing and deadlifting makes you strong at a lot of other things.[/quote]
Perhaps I’ll be chastised in the forums for this, because it is a common notion to bench, deadlift, squat to get strong-- and that is it. They are indeed important points to consider, but it does not mean it is law. Deadlifting specifically is very dependent on the lifter. If you are absolutely horrible at deadlifting, then doing it will certainly lead to overall strength development.
Though, take someone like me with average limb lengths and proportions, the deadlift does hardly anything for me. I can walk away from it and still come back months later and pull around 500 without training it. My range of motion is like 10-12 inches and pulling explosively off the floor and cleaning a weight proves a helluva lot more effective. Not saying the deadlift is worthless, it is a great movement, but you can seriously not do the lift and still be strong as hell if the programming is right and something like squatting is a paramount staple in the training.
Likewise, the bench press is again a great movement, I believe it helps balance out the body. However, it is one of many tools to use for strength. If you are not competing and don’t want to bench you are losing absolutely nothing by not doing it. I guess the only thing you will be losing is the ability to bench press well-- which is a lot like worrying if you can run a mile in 6 minutes. No one cares but you, if you’re not competing.
I know a guy at my gym who ONLY competes in push meets. To me, it is silly, but he has the lower body of an 8 year old, and not kidding, an upperbody of a 250 pound man and benches around 600 raw at 205. Is he weak? No, but he sure as hell couldn’t squat 400, let alone 600. On the same token, a strong olympic lifter is going to have what I would consider great total body strength, but they will suck ass at benching compared to a powerlifter.
Look at strong gymnasts,or a successful candidate through BUD/S. No deadlifting, no benching and all I feel have total body strength as well. Perhaps not by the measure of these forums and a powerlifting meet, but who cares? So my point is that it is irrelevant. Strength and the idea of “total body strength” are, and always will be, open for discussion. In any case, hope that helps explain my thoughts
You know a guy who benches 6-hundo at 205? Wouldn’t that be a world record?