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Critique Cycle? Test + Dbol


#1

So I’m planning on doing a new cycle my last ine went really well and I’ve had plenty of time to recover, I want to do a Test E cycle and kickstart it with DBOL this is how I’d plan it,

Week 1
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
50mg DBOL (Every Day)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)

Week 2
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
50mg DBOL (Every Day)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)

Week 3
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
50mg DBOL (Every Day)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)

Week 4
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
50mg DBOL (Every Day)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)

Week 5
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
50mg DBOL (Every Day)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)
Hcg 1000iu (Every Week)

Week 6
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
50mg DBOL (Every Day)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)
Hcg 1000iu (Every Week)

Week 7
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)
Hcg 1000iu (Every Week)

Week 8
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)
Hcg 1000iu (Every Week)

Week 9
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)
Hcg 1000iu (Every Week)

Week 10
600mg Test Cyp (Every Week)
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)
Hcg 1000iu (Every Week)

Week 11
Arimidex .5mg (Every 3 Days)

Week 12
Ok now this is the thing rather than getting nolva it is cheaper for me to get 50 tablets with a BLEND OF PROVIRON, CLOMID, TAMOXIFEN, CIALIS. 25MG PER COMPOUND… so since it is cheaper I may aswell get that and maybe take 1 a day for 6 weeks or 7 as I have enough then follow up with DAA or something…

As for hcg I probably won’t be using it from day 1 maybe week 5 or should I use it from day 1?


#2

I would use the blend on cycle. And get regular nolva for PCT. Proviron can and will keep you shut you down. ok


#3

Ok, I just wish they did one without proviron also I’ve been doing wendlers 5/3/1 currently, could I train more as really as I’m doing this more for strength more than anything.


#4

if you’re running 5/3/1, just do the program. plenty of volume. Some of the best lifters I know don’t work out more than twice a week. More is not always better. I personally train about 3x per week, I run gear, and that’s plenty for me. And I rarely train more than an hour at a time.


#5

Ah because I thought taking gear would make you recover quicker but I’d do that


#6

yes you’re right


#7

I am on the higher volume and frequency, personally I prefer more training it’s like a drug on it’s own.


#8

@flipcollar Does that cycle layout look fine to you?, Also I was going to kickstart it differently as I will have more DBOL so I may aswell use it I was going to kickstart at 50mg for 4 weeks then the next 4 taper down to 25mg to remove the potential water… and Also should I run HCg for 5 weeks and when should I stop I’d have thought a good time would be 1 week before PCT and I’ll be using Nolva now at 40/40/20/20 and should I run Adex right through the 2 weeks after the last pin to start PCT, sorry but I’m finding so much conflicting info online and Adex btw is 0.5mg E3Days, Is that too low?


#9

I don’t give advice on HCG, I’ve never used it.

The cycle is fine, adex may need to be adjusted based on how you personally respond to it. Everyone is different there.

Taper adex down through pct. Run it at least through the first 2 weeks of pct, at a low dose. Estrogen rebound is a big problem for some people during/after pct. gotta manage it appropriately.


#10

Ive seen people do dbol at front and back. Of cycle. … Is this better gainz?


#11

Front would be best as Test takes a little longer to kick in so you have the potential to be anabolic at the start.

Ok this is the whole layout after PCT I’ll probabaly do DAA, TUDCA and Cardarine to help my whole body recover faster


#12

Tudca is liver support, has nothing to do with recovering HTPA. And DAA is counterproductive, it can suppress your natural test production. Never use DAA during PCT.

How about instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, you just do the Nolva PCT and be done with it?