[quote]dankid wrote:
You are on a bodybuilding forum so be prepared for very biased results. Everyone here trains the way their favorite pro bodybuilder trains because they think they’ll get similar results. Its like the people that follow the workout plans from Flex, and men’s fitness. And NO, you cant just say “oh all the big bodybuilders use splits, so thats the way to get big”. Thats like saying “barry bonds trains using x,y,z and he hits a lot of home runs, so thats the way to train”.
Usually when it comes to anything regarding training or nutrition, your best bet is to do the opposite of what the majority is doing. (Sure this might be a trendy answer but it works)
As for splits vs full body training, i think the advantages and disadvantages of each are pretty simple. The big disadvantage with splits that I see, is that the body is meant to function as a whole, and with splits it does not.
Using splits, you limit yourself from using many of the most effective exercises. For example, a heavy conventional deadlift works your entire backside, your abs, forearms, and even a lot of your quads. So what day do you put this exercise? The same goes for power cleans, squats, lunges, bench, rows, pullups, etc. Ive even noticed this problem with a well designed upper/lower split.
The advantage of a split, is that it allows you to focus more on lagging areas, or areas that do not recieve a large amount of stimulus during compound movements. For example, if bench is only really working your triceps and shoulders, then you might need to do flys to get chest stimulation.
So the simple answer is, if you need more overall mass, TBT is supreme. If you have lagging areas but good overall mass, then split training is supreme. And like most people, your probably somewhere in between, so both types of training have something to offer.[/quote]
This is idiotic, and a blatant generalization. Only the idiots actually go and just stumble into the gym doing the EXACT SAME program that someone else uses to train, without rhyme or reason. The experienced people and those who have made the most progress TAKE WHAT IS COMMON FROM THE GREATEST BODYBUILDERS WORKOUTS and discard what it unnecessary. Doing this gives you a TEMPLATE or an IDEA to follow, then you have to find out what works for you. That statement about the body is meant to function as a whole and not doing so will not result in the same gains is stupid.
That would mean that EVERY EXERCISE YOU DO SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF TOTAL BODY MOVEMENT. Whoa there goes curls, extensions, most shoulder movements, hitting the calves optimally, you just take out soooo many exercises with that line of thinking and that is stupid. anytime you limit yourself from exercises you are missing out on potentially great tools for building your body. Also your statement that splits keep you from doing compound exercises like deadlifts is FUCKING RETARDED. People have NO TROUBLE adding these in, i personally have them on back day, you know why? because that’s what i feel is most sore after I do them, so i set them on back day.
I agree with your final statement that you something in between is usually the answer but still, your arguments against splits are terrible. It’s funny how you didn’t mention anything against TBT.