CorticoSteroids

Betamethasone
Predisone
Betamethasone Sodium Phosphate, Betamethasone Dipropionate.

[Steroids, corticosteroids.]

I’ve already taken this medications from which I have experienced: Oily skin, light acne, loss of libido, aggressiveness, dry mouth and others.

From what I know this are also side effects you experience with ae’s.

All those medications where taken as a recommendation from my doctor to treat skin allergy. Before and after the treatment I had to do a series of blood exams.

If my doctor thought I would have no problem ( from my blood levels) with those, does it mean in anyway I will have no problem with ae’s?
I experienced complete loss of libido during the treatment. And after it was over the doctor did not recommend any kind of medication for me to reestablish my T levels. Then after one week I was feeling ok again.
Does this mean anything to my PCT approach?

Wrong type of steroids mate.

You’re not the first though, many qualified GMPs get AAS and CS mixed up. Disturbing huh?

[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Wrong type of steroids mate.

You’re not the first though, many qualified GMPs get AAS and CS mixed up. Disturbing huh?[/quote]

I know, I did not confuse the forum.

My question is If I took all those medications who had the same kind of side effects and I responded well to them does it mean I will respond well to the Aes

No.

sorry if this is a hijack but just wondering what exactly corticosteroids are and what they do. I know cyclists use them but not a lot else so if anybody could point me in the right direction for some basic info id be interested,oh and yes i did try the search function.
Thanks

[quote]andyveg wrote:
sorry if this is a hijack but just wondering what exactly corticosteroids are and what they do. I know cyclists use them but not a lot else so if anybody could point me in the right direction for some basic info id be interested,oh and yes i did try the search function.
Thanks[/quote]

Corticosteroids are steroids produced in your adrenal cortex (hence corticosteroids).

They’re actions are not similar to the androgens we all know and love.

I took Coritcosteroids for 13 years to treat Ulcerative colitis. They knocked the shit out of my immune system and sex drive and gave me a bit of a hump on my back.

I had surgery to get rid of the colitis but it took a long time and lots medications to help build up my immune system and a good year or so in cialis until my sex drive kicked back in naturally. Bad stuff, makes you week and kills your whole body.

Yes I have had a lot of health problems in my short life. lol

I think it’s funny when people get the two mixed up and talk about when they took steroids for a joint injury or some inflammation or something and then talk about how they were strong or looked really good or something, so goofy.

[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
I think it’s funny when people get the two mixed up and talk about when they took steroids for a joint injury or some inflammation or something and then talk about how they were strong or looked really good or something, so goofy. [/quote]

What part of this cant you understand? It doesnt even get close to mixing them up. Its prety clear but obviously not to you.

"If my doctor thought I would have no problem ( from my blood levels) with those, does it mean in anyway I will have no problem with ae’s? "

ae = anti-estrogen? What am I missing here?

there shouldn’t be a need for pct after discontinuing corticosteroids…many cortico’s are just slowly tapered down to a small consistant dose or eventually to nothing…

I can eat pickles and have no problems…does this mean I can eat apples too?

does that help?

[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
ae = anti-estrogen? What am I missing here?

there shouldn’t be a need for pct after discontinuing corticosteroids…many cortico’s are just slowly tapered down to a small consistant dose or eventually to nothing…

I can eat pickles and have no problems…does this mean I can eat apples too?

does that help?[/quote]

Actually, having witnessed first hand the complications encountered by a cortisone steroid injection, an AI is a damn good idea.

My friend who i have mentioned several times, with the SIJ problems took a large amount into the right SIJ, Apart from the fact that it worsened his condition for a period of time and infact never helped at all, he also experienced testicular atrophy, gyno and basically shutdown.
I cannot find too much info on other cases of this, i havent really looked hard mind, so it may be an isolated incident.

Therefore i would reccomend at minimum a 12 week trt dosage cycle of testosterone (150-250mg/wk) as well as perhaps 5 on 2 off GH protocol (2-3iu perhaps?) as well as running arimidex and having tamoxifen on hand.

Cortico-Steroids, whilst they perhaps have their place in medicine, are a dangerous and not understood drug, as far as UK doctors go so please approach with care.

To make my point on my doctors comment, blood tests were carried out, testosterone levels were terribly low, estrogen & prolactin levels were high (the prolactin however is associated with inflammation and cox 2 pathways at some level so i would not authoritively say that the cortisone inj caused this) and both the gyno and testicular atrophy were examined and confirmed by the doctor, however, it took a second opinion for him to have action taken at which point he was prescribed 25mg daily of adex!!! and no i didnt miss the decimal point out.

Fortunately, we were able to rectify the situ with some letro and nolva, we would have taken the steroids route but other complications prevented that which have been explained else where on this forum.

Hope this info is of value to you O/P.

Reguards
Testanabol