[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
DoubleDeuce, good call.
legendaryblaze wrote:
Your moral reasons are bullshit too, btw.
Come on, man. Like I said in my first post in this thread, if you want you get a legitimate point across without sounding condescending or ignorant, I respectfully dare you to try to avoid statements like this.
I know you can explain your ideas without sounding derogatory. Threads like this too often devolve into name-calling (vegetarians are pussies, meat-eaters rockmysox). We’re shooting for a smart, useful discussion here.
We are animals. We have canines for a reason (tear through meat).
Whenever this issue is brought up, it never really felt right, or complete, to me. See the above pic. The mountain gorilla lives on an herbivorous diet, and has canine teeth.
This National Geographic article explains how the Human jaw and teeth have changed over time, and have gradually grown less accustomed to eating meat in its raw form.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/02/0218_050218_human_diet_2.html
This article also explains that canine teeth are often found in animals for purposes other than feeding.
Enjoy your Anemia.
From what I’ve read, anemia is avoid relatively-simply by either making non-heme iron more efficiently absorbed by the body, or by supplementing with a vegetarian-specific multi formula. Not all vegetarians or vegans have anemia. Just like with an omni diet (how many average women are calcium deficient?), nutrient deficiencies can be avoided with a bit of planning.
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Alright brohamsky, let us have an intelligent discussion.
I said we have canines to tear meat. Which is true. That is the purpose of canines. Chimpanzess and other apes use their canines to tear meat.
While chimps eat primarly plants and leaves, they have been known to eat some animals and birds when the situation called for it.
Whether they eat an abundance of vegetation or not is besides the point. Their circumstances and environments have led them to rely more on vegetation than meat. Which is fine.
That wasn’t my point though…i am not knocking vegetables and such foods. I am just saying that we can eat meat as well. We are omnivore. We eat both meat and vegetation. To deprive yourself of meat because of some mislead sense of superiority (think of the animals!) is folly, at best.
While i realize that not everyone has anemia, you will notice that my post was directed to a woman, who would be more at risk of anemia. You know…the whole blood loss thing once a month as well as during pregnancy. However that comment was meant in jest, so it’s not important. While you could eat a special diet so you could have more iron in your diet without touching meat, it seems to be something that is more of a pain than it is worth. While i understand people have their opinion and reason on why they eat vegetables, it does not mean i have to agree with them.
As the great Mr. Garrison once said
“Tolerant, but not stupid! Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn’t mean you have to approve of it! …“Tolerate” means you’re just putting up with it! You tolerate a crying child sitting next to you on the airplane or, or you tolerate a bad cold. It can still piss you off”
You can eat all the plants you want, in the end it’s your problem. However i’ll continue voicing my belief that i think denying yourself meat is absolutely retarded because really…it is.
For the record, i fucking HATE milk. I detest the taste. I hate it, but i drink it cause it’s really good for you.
I also don’t know if our canines becoming smaller having anything to do with saying if we should eat meat or not. I assume the fact that we discovered fire and became used to eating tenderized meat in soups and otherwise could be a reason for why the human jaw and tooth has changed.
It’s practically unheard of for anyone to eat anything meaty that has not been cooked in one form or another and has been softened up.
This could be a social occurrence and maybe not necessarily a direct evolutionary one.
However my point still stands. You can eat both meat and vegetation.