Continuation on the Reproductive Rights Topic

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Planned Genocide is just an abortion factory. I wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. [/quote]

This is not about abortion, watch the video or read the facts I wrote that the guy in the video is presenting as I wrote above.

Do you agree that Planned Parenthood is getting children “addicted to sex?”[/quote]

Yes. You don’t exposure to sexual material at a young age doesn’t have neural repercussions? [/quote]

Sexual health material.

And what “neural repercussions” would those be?[/quote]

http://www.health.state.mn.us/injury/docs/Normalization_of_Sexual_Harm_Fact_Sheet.pdf

References a few studies.

Heck look at yourselves. Your secular liberalization of sexual norms, look where it’s led you. You have to defend this kind of material as part of a 10 year old’s ‘education.’ Material that could’ve been drawn/animated by any pedophile sitting in prison. So at 10 years of age they’re already looking over sexual material, provided by adults. They’re already thinking of themselves as legitimately sexual beings. As reinforced by adults. Why? Because of the sexually addicted culture that can’t help but to keep pushing the envelope with each new generation, now. 10 year olds…That’s where it’s taken us. 10 year olds.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

http://www.health.state.mn.us/injury/docs/Normalization_of_Sexual_Harm_Fact_Sheet.pdf

References a few studies.[/quote]

Hrmm… I don’t see anything about sexual health material only pornography and racy billboards.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

Heck look at yourselves. Your secular liberalization of sexual norms, look where it’s led you. You have to defend this kind of material as part of a 10 year old’s ‘education.’ Material that could’ve been drawn/animated by any pedophile sitting in prison. So at 10 years of age they’re already looking over sexual material, provided by adults. They’re already thinking of themselves as legitimately sexual beings. As reinforced by adults. Why? Because of the sexually addicted culture that can’t help but to keep pushing the envelope with each new generation, now. 10 year olds…That’s where it’s taken us. 10 year olds.
[/quote]

So you’re only objection is that they’re showing this to 10 year olds?

If that was changed to 12 years old would you stop complaining?

The ‘clittle league…’

What kind of piece of human trash was hired to write and animate this junk?

And yes, let’s flood the still developing minds of adolescents with a break-dancing penis and a back up dancing vagina.

Collect tax payer funds? They ought to be in prison.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

If that was changed to 12 years old would you stop complaining?

[/quote]

No.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
The ‘clittle league…’

What kind of piece of human trash was hired to write and animate this junk?

And yes, let’s flood the still developing minds of adolescents with a break-dancing penis and a back up dancing vagina.

Collect tax payer funds? They ought to be in prison. [/quote]

So you have no evidence that this doing harm to children?

It’s just your own unsupported opinion?

Report of the American Psychological Association Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. 2007. pp. 22‐25.
4 Harms of Pornography Exposure Among Children & Young People. Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health &Society.
5 Chandra et al Longitudinal Survey of Youth, Pediatrics 122, No. 5, 2008, pp. 1047‐1054.Children?s Hospital Boston Study, presented at
the Pediatric Academic Societies, May 4, 2009.
6 Shane W. Kraus, Brenda Russell. Early sexual experiences: the role of internet access and sexually explicit material. Cyber Psychology &
Behavior. April 2008, 11 (2): 162‐168.
7 Gallese, V., Fadiga, L., Fogassi, L., and Rizzolatti, G. (1996). Action recognition in the premotor cortex. Brain, 119, 593‐609.
8 Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self‐reported engagement in sexual violence among
adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3(3), 265‐268. Brown, J., & L?Engle, K. (2009). X‐Rated: Sexual attitudes and
behaviors associated with U.S. early adolescents? exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36(1), 129‐151. Flood,
M. (2009). The harms of pornography exposure among children and young people. Child Abuse Review, 18, 384‐400.
9 Adolescent Girls in the United States Sex Trade: Tracking Study Results for August, 2010. Prepared by The Schapiro Group.
10 Normalization of Sexual Harm Webinar, Cordelia Anderson & Dr. Sharon Cooper, 2006

If you’d like an understanding of how the young brain develops, start reading the above.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Report of the American Psychological Association Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. 2007. pp. 22‐25.
4 Harms of Pornography Exposure Among Children & Young People. Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health &Society.
5 Chandra et al Longitudinal Survey of Youth, Pediatrics 122, No. 5, 2008, pp. 1047‐1054.Children?s Hospital Boston Study, presented at
the Pediatric Academic Societies, May 4, 2009.
6 Shane W. Kraus, Brenda Russell. Early sexual experiences: the role of internet access and sexually explicit material. Cyber Psychology &
Behavior. April 2008, 11 (2): 162‐168.
7 Gallese, V., Fadiga, L., Fogassi, L., and Rizzolatti, G. (1996). Action recognition in the premotor cortex. Brain, 119, 593‐609.
8 Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self‐reported engagement in sexual violence among
adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3(3), 265‐268. Brown, J., & L?Engle, K. (2009). X‐Rated: Sexual attitudes and
behaviors associated with U.S. early adolescents? exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36(1), 129‐151. Flood,
M. (2009). The harms of pornography exposure among children and young people. Child Abuse Review, 18, 384‐400.
9 Adolescent Girls in the United States Sex Trade: Tracking Study Results for August, 2010. Prepared by The Schapiro Group.
10 Normalization of Sexual Harm Webinar, Cordelia Anderson & Dr. Sharon Cooper, 2006[/quote]

The link you provided says nothing about sexual health material.

Thinking its morally wrong requires no proof. There is no proof of any moral judgments. Forcing people to pay for things they find morally wrong is also morally wrong by the way.

Just because you deem sexual health material to be pornography does not make it so.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Thinking its morally wrong requires no proof. There is no proof of any moral judgments. Forcing people to pay for things they find morally wrong is also morally wrong by the way.[/quote]

But what requires proof is saying that it has neural repercussions on children.

“sexually explicit material” “sexually explicit media”

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Thinking its morally wrong requires no proof. There is no proof of any moral judgments. Forcing people to pay for things they find morally wrong is also morally wrong by the way.[/quote]

But what requires proof is saying that it has neural repercussions on children.[/quote]

True, but the general claim that it’s morally wrong to expose 10 year olds to explicit sexual material doesn’t.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Thinking its morally wrong requires no proof. There is no proof of any moral judgments. Forcing people to pay for things they find morally wrong is also morally wrong by the way.[/quote]

But what requires proof is saying that it has neural repercussions on children.[/quote]

True, but the general claim that it’s morally wrong to expose 10 year olds to explicit sexual material doesn’t.[/quote]

If he wants to argue teaching sex education at 10 years old is too early, that’s reasonable to me and can be looked at. I can see that, maybe it is too young.

But he’s equating pornography to sexual health material and thus trying to assert sexual health material has neural repercussions.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Report of the American Psychological Association Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. 2007. pp. 22‐25.
4 Harms of Pornography Exposure Among Children & Young People. Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health &Society.
5 Chandra et al Longitudinal Survey of Youth, Pediatrics 122, No. 5, 2008, pp. 1047‐1054.Children?s Hospital Boston Study, presented at
the Pediatric Academic Societies, May 4, 2009.
6 Shane W. Kraus, Brenda Russell. Early sexual experiences: the role of internet access and sexually explicit material. Cyber Psychology &
Behavior. April 2008, 11 (2): 162‐168.
7 Gallese, V., Fadiga, L., Fogassi, L., and Rizzolatti, G. (1996). Action recognition in the premotor cortex. Brain, 119, 593‐609.
8 Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self‐reported engagement in sexual violence among
adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3(3), 265‐268. Brown, J., & L?Engle, K. (2009). X‐Rated: Sexual attitudes and
behaviors associated with U.S. early adolescents? exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36(1), 129‐151. Flood,
M. (2009). The harms of pornography exposure among children and young people. Child Abuse Review, 18, 384‐400.
9 Adolescent Girls in the United States Sex Trade: Tracking Study Results for August, 2010. Prepared by The Schapiro Group.
10 Normalization of Sexual Harm Webinar, Cordelia Anderson & Dr. Sharon Cooper, 2006[/quote]

The link you provided says nothing about sexual health material.[/quote]

Yeah, because masturbating children, dancing genitals, discussions on anal sex…nothing explicit there.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Thinking its morally wrong requires no proof. There is no proof of any moral judgments. Forcing people to pay for things they find morally wrong is also morally wrong by the way.[/quote]

But what requires proof is saying that it has neural repercussions on children.[/quote]

True, but the general claim that it’s morally wrong to expose 10 year olds to explicit sexual material doesn’t.[/quote]

If he wants to argue teaching sex education at 10 years old is too early, that’s reasonable to me and can be looked at. I can see that, maybe it is too young.

But he’s equating pornography to sexual health material and thus trying to assert sexual health material has neural repercussions.

[/quote]

Several of the studies were on sexually explicit material and the general normalization of sex to young people.

Additionally, I know for a fact that there is little difference between a naked woman in a playboy and a naked woman in a text book in the mind of a young boy.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Report of the American Psychological Association Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. 2007. pp. 22‐25.
4 Harms of Pornography Exposure Among Children & Young People. Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health &Society.
5 Chandra et al Longitudinal Survey of Youth, Pediatrics 122, No. 5, 2008, pp. 1047‐1054.Children?s Hospital Boston Study, presented at
the Pediatric Academic Societies, May 4, 2009.
6 Shane W. Kraus, Brenda Russell. Early sexual experiences: the role of internet access and sexually explicit material. Cyber Psychology &
Behavior. April 2008, 11 (2): 162‐168.
7 Gallese, V., Fadiga, L., Fogassi, L., and Rizzolatti, G. (1996). Action recognition in the premotor cortex. Brain, 119, 593‐609.
8 Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self‐reported engagement in sexual violence among
adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3(3), 265‐268. Brown, J., & L?Engle, K. (2009). X‐Rated: Sexual attitudes and
behaviors associated with U.S. early adolescents? exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36(1), 129‐151. Flood,
M. (2009). The harms of pornography exposure among children and young people. Child Abuse Review, 18, 384‐400.
9 Adolescent Girls in the United States Sex Trade: Tracking Study Results for August, 2010. Prepared by The Schapiro Group.
10 Normalization of Sexual Harm Webinar, Cordelia Anderson & Dr. Sharon Cooper, 2006[/quote]

The link you provided says nothing about sexual health material.[/quote]

Yeah, because masturbating children, dancing genitals, discussions on anal sex…nothing explicit there.
[/quote]

None of which is presented in a manner to stimulate arousal.

The presentment of topics related to sexual health =/= pornography no matter how much you want it to be.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Report of the American Psychological Association Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. 2007. pp. 22‐25.
4 Harms of Pornography Exposure Among Children & Young People. Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health &Society.
5 Chandra et al Longitudinal Survey of Youth, Pediatrics 122, No. 5, 2008, pp. 1047‐1054.Children?s Hospital Boston Study, presented at
the Pediatric Academic Societies, May 4, 2009.
6 Shane W. Kraus, Brenda Russell. Early sexual experiences: the role of internet access and sexually explicit material. Cyber Psychology &
Behavior. April 2008, 11 (2): 162‐168.
7 Gallese, V., Fadiga, L., Fogassi, L., and Rizzolatti, G. (1996). Action recognition in the premotor cortex. Brain, 119, 593‐609.
8 Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self‐reported engagement in sexual violence among
adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3(3), 265‐268. Brown, J., & L?Engle, K. (2009). X‐Rated: Sexual attitudes and
behaviors associated with U.S. early adolescents? exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36(1), 129‐151. Flood,
M. (2009). The harms of pornography exposure among children and young people. Child Abuse Review, 18, 384‐400.
9 Adolescent Girls in the United States Sex Trade: Tracking Study Results for August, 2010. Prepared by The Schapiro Group.
10 Normalization of Sexual Harm Webinar, Cordelia Anderson & Dr. Sharon Cooper, 2006[/quote]

The link you provided says nothing about sexual health material.[/quote]

Yeah, because masturbating children, dancing genitals, discussions on anal sex…nothing explicit there.
[/quote]

None of which is presented in a manner to stimulate arousal.

The presentment of topics related to sexual health =/= pornography no matter how much you want it to be.

[/quote]

“None of which is presented in a manner to stimulate arousal.”

That is not possible with young children. They do not make that distinction.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Thinking its morally wrong requires no proof. There is no proof of any moral judgments. Forcing people to pay for things they find morally wrong is also morally wrong by the way.[/quote]

But what requires proof is saying that it has neural repercussions on children.[/quote]

True, but the general claim that it’s morally wrong to expose 10 year olds to explicit sexual material doesn’t.[/quote]

If he wants to argue teaching sex education at 10 years old is too early, that’s reasonable to me and can be looked at. I can see that, maybe it is too young.

But he’s equating pornography to sexual health material and thus trying to assert sexual health material has neural repercussions.

[/quote]

Several of the studies were on sexually explicit material and the general normalization of sex to young people.

Additionally, I know for a fact that there is little difference between a naked woman in a playboy and a naked woman in a text book in the mind of a young boy.[/quote]

I reject the idea that sexual health material should be considered on par with pornography.

If sex education was truly damaging kids, sloth would be able to present a study that clearly mentioned sex health material. He can’t. Guess why?

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Report of the American Psychological Association Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. 2007. pp. 22‐25.
4 Harms of Pornography Exposure Among Children & Young People. Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health &Society.
5 Chandra et al Longitudinal Survey of Youth, Pediatrics 122, No. 5, 2008, pp. 1047‐1054.Children?s Hospital Boston Study, presented at
the Pediatric Academic Societies, May 4, 2009.
6 Shane W. Kraus, Brenda Russell. Early sexual experiences: the role of internet access and sexually explicit material. Cyber Psychology &
Behavior. April 2008, 11 (2): 162‐168.
7 Gallese, V., Fadiga, L., Fogassi, L., and Rizzolatti, G. (1996). Action recognition in the premotor cortex. Brain, 119, 593‐609.
8 Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self‐reported engagement in sexual violence among
adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3(3), 265‐268. Brown, J., & L?Engle, K. (2009). X‐Rated: Sexual attitudes and
behaviors associated with U.S. early adolescents? exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36(1), 129‐151. Flood,
M. (2009). The harms of pornography exposure among children and young people. Child Abuse Review, 18, 384‐400.
9 Adolescent Girls in the United States Sex Trade: Tracking Study Results for August, 2010. Prepared by The Schapiro Group.
10 Normalization of Sexual Harm Webinar, Cordelia Anderson & Dr. Sharon Cooper, 2006[/quote]

The link you provided says nothing about sexual health material.[/quote]

Yeah, because masturbating children, dancing genitals, discussions on anal sex…nothing explicit there.
[/quote]

None of which is presented in a manner to stimulate arousal.

The presentment of topics related to sexual health =/= pornography no matter how much you want it to be.

[/quote]

“None of which is presented in a manner to stimulate arousal.”

That is not possible with young children. They do not make that distinction.[/quote]

And that makes it pornography to you?