[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I’ve mentioned before the omission of the fact that the majority of slaves brought to the New World in the first century of the transatlantic slave trade were white. That would demolish the White guilt narrative the teachers’ espouse.
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No, it wouldn’t.
First, you’re putting arbitrary and nonsensical strictures on a historical question that spans many hundreds of years (“in the first century of the transatlantic slave trade”), for no reason other than that it benefits the nonsense you want to push.
Second, the “first century of the transatlantic slave trade” was numerically insignificant vis-a-vis the trade at its height, from the 18th century to the mid-19th.
Third, are you bending the respective definitions of “slave” and “indentured servant.” Or are you referring specifically and exclusively to whites owned, for their lifetimes, as chattel? If you aren’t, then your point sinks under the weight of its own shoddiness, because there is utterly no comparison to be made.
Fourth, and most importantly, see everything we’ve written thus far in this thread about American slavery’s historical development and the inarguable fact that it became simply inseparable from issues of race. Denial of this is mere ignorance of American history.[/quote]
I’ve been through this before. I’m not talking about bloody indentured servants. Im talking about slaves, shipped in space hulks and sold as slaves and even bred as slaves. Even children. For example, on one occasion alone Oliver Cromwell had 30,000 Irish children kidnapped from their families and shipped to Jamaica to be sold as slaves. We’re not talking about numerically insignificant numbers or facts here. And you’re dtawing a bullshit conflation of slavery with indentured servitude; a seperate but similar institution to serfdom and slavery. And cut the shit with the pretending distorted anti-White historical revisionism isn’t taught in schools. Surely you know better. TB too. Grow some balls and face facts.
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You’re confused - or in actuality, blinded by ideology. Some schools preach “white guilt”. Even if they do, that is not the same as teaching the history of race-based slavery. That part is historical fact. The fact that other raves may have owned slaves doesn’t change the nature of American slavery as being race-based.
Whether modern white people need to feel guilty about it, or whether modern white people should “pay” for it is a separate debate. The fact that it occurred and was underpinned by racism isn’t subject to revisionism.
And keep your crackpot white supremacist websites to yourself - anyone who knows me around here knows I have no interest in entertaining such drivel.
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White supramacist? Don’t be a fool. It’s infantile really.